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06-15-2005, 01:38 AM
So how does the Aston Martin DB9 Coupe or Volante compare to the Bentley? Has anyone ever put the two through their paces? Specs, performance-wise how these two stack up in a side-by-side comparison? What about the intangibles, e.g., to me the Aston Martin name has always been more closely associated with a certain sophistication and maturity...whereas I associate the Bentley with entertainers, athletes, and those with the need to maintain a particular public image. Did I miss the mark?

Mark M.
06-20-2005, 03:06 PM
I've seen more Bentley's with non-celebrity owners. The car has an understated elegance that makes it the perfect car for a daily driver. Those that don't know what it is ignore it (including the police). The Aston is more "in-your-face" when it comes to a pure performance look.

Honestly, at this level, it comes down to which do you prefer. You will never push either car to it's limits on US roads and who really cares about specs!?! Published specs will never tell you what a test drive will.

BTW, maturity is spelled "VOLVO". There is nothing more mature than a simple safe car. Both of these vehicles are the opposite of mature. They are adult toys.

Mark M.

06-20-2005, 10:47 PM
The Aston Martin DB9 is more of a sports car when compared to the Continental GT.

The DB9 will be available with a manual transmission this summer.

The following is from last year

"There's been a shift in attitude at Aston Martin - the DB9 is to get an all-new manual gearbox. The move comes as a result of demand from traditionalist customers, who want this transmission instead of the sequential automatic with dash-mounted buttons.The conventional six-speed version will join the DB9 line-up towards the middle of next year, and is expected to cost around £3,000 less than the current model."

Here are three great articles about Aston Martin and Henrik Fisker. Fikser was Aston Martin's director of design from 2001 until December of last year. He styled the BMW Z8 while at BMW. Marek Reichman is now Aston Martin's Director of Design.

Drawing on the experience and technology pioneered in the Vanquish, the DB9's frame is made entirely from aluminium. Die-cast, extruded and stamped aluminium components are bonded using immensely strong adhesives, supplemented by mechanical fixing using self-piercing rivets.

The frame is made in aluminium and the body panels are then fitted, again using adhesives, in the advanced body assembly area at Aston Martin's new Gaydon facility. This adhesive is applied by a robot - the only one at Aston Martin. Computer controlled hot-air curing ensures the highest standards of accuracy and repeatability.

- press release

Aston Martin got a new factory in 2003.

Dr. Ulrich Bez, Aston Martin's CEO (since July 2000), used to work for Porsche. Ulrich Bez directed the design, development and introduction of the 911 Turbo, the Carrera RS, the 968, and the classic 993.

check here for an interview with him.

Ulrich Bez (

One of the two factory Aston Martin DBR9s won its class (GT1) in the 2005 12 Hours of Sebring against two factory Corvette C6-Rs, two Saleen S7Rs, a Ferrari 550 or two, a factory Maserati MC12, and a Dodge Viper.

"The three [David Brabham, Peter Kox and Darren Turner] gave Aston Martin its first class victory at Sebring since 1956, a span of 49 years."


The DBR9's steel roll cage is bonded and bolted to the extruded aluminum structure due to the fact that steel can't be welded to aluminum.

From the 53rd Annual 12 Hours of Sebring.

Aston Martins raced with green and yellow paintwork all those years ago.

Here is a DB3S. The DB3S took at least 15 victories.

06-21-2005, 04:40 PM
heritage and their newly formed racing division. Thank you for sharing this info and for the articles on Aston Martin/Fisker.

06-21-2005, 04:51 PM
over the weekend with the United States Grand Prix.

The US GP would make a great ALMS race, imo. Porsche will have a new LMP2 race car by October.

More pictures and information can be found here

73rd running of the 24 Hours of Le Mans (

06-23-2005, 11:52 AM
I normally sit back and just read the posts but I feel compelled to rebut your comments (in a friendly sort of way). I think the Aston has such sleek and refined looks that it goes un-noticed. Whereas the Bentley gives the impression of this larger sinister street stalker, especially at night, shuttling the evil barron from the castle on top of some hill. Both owners don't do drive thru and valet park exclusively. One thing for sure, they are both in the same class just different products and interpretations. Congratulations to all of you that have earned the success that allows the final decision to be made at either the Aston or Bentley dealer (Astons available now, Bentleys can pay the premium or get on the wait list).
Charles Rollins

06-28-2005, 04:53 PM
Drove both cars and bought the Bentley. The Aston is more of a drivers car for sure, but not enough to be an out and out sports car. As a GT, for covering vast numbers of miles in complete luxury, the Bentley is easily the best.
In terms of quality of fit and finish, the Bentley is also the clear winner. The Aston is full of Ford plastic, and doesn't even have an auto dimming rear view mirror.
The Bentley has 4 wheel drive also........for those trips thru rain or snow.

The guy who cleans my cars, and many other exotics and is a specialist at detailing for 30 years also believes the Bentley to be the better car by a mile in nearly every way.

I bought the Bentley and am very pleased I did. My friend bought the Aston, and hates it.........makes a nice noise though, and the press love it.......!!

06-29-2005, 06:12 PM
The new Bentley Continental GT and Flying Spur are full of Audi switchgear and plastic. Reviews of the DB9 haven't reported Ford plastic.

The Continental GT is the car for music videos.

08-28-2005, 10:51 PM
One thing I really like about the DB9 is the edge around the trunk.

DBR9 shown below

09-10-2005, 05:56 PM
You might want to take a look at the 2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage.

It uses Jaguar 4.2 liter V-8, but the cylinder block, cylinder heads, crankshaft, connecting rods, pistons, camshafts, inlet and exhaust manifolds, lubrication system and engine management are all unique to the 4.3 V-8 used in the new Aston. It also has dry-sump lubrication.

Jaguar's V-8 first came out with 4.0 liters in the 1997 XK8. It was heavily revised a couple years ago (now with 4.2 liters).

check the link

Yellow is a bad color for a classy car like an Aston Martin.

check the link for more information

10-28-2005, 02:59 AM

11-11-2005, 05:33 PM
I can see everyone's point of view. Seems to be impacted by where you live and your use of the car. So let me pose it a little differently.

I live in San Francisco. I always have a fun car and a daily car. Currently I have been playing with a BMW 6 convertable. When taking my Rover in for service I have seen both the GT and DB9 at the dealer, both are very beautiful cars.

If you only drove the car 3000 miles per year, 50% at 30mph going to the safeway and 50% at 125mph dring down US1 to Carmel. Which car would you buy? and Why?

Maverick Scott
01-02-2006, 12:29 PM

02-03-2006, 05:54 PM
VOLVO!? Are you implying we're not mature, Mr. POOPYPANTS? (With my apologies to the writers of "The Naked Gun" who originaly came up with that joke). Actually, I would assess maturity as being a quality imbued with empathy, consideration and patience. I don't think it means not enjoying life and driving a box.

02-17-2006, 10:25 AM

10-15-2006, 08:02 PM
The DB9 is available with a manual transmission and a sport package which has shorter gearing than standard automatic transmission. The Sport Pack and the manual reduces weight to under 3,800 pounds.

press release from earlier this year:

From July, Aston Martin will offer the option of a factory-fitted "Sports Pack" specification for the DB9 Coupe, combining revised suspension characteristics with a new alloy wheel design to give subtly different driving dynamics.

The new five-spoke forged aluminium alloy wheels are lighter than the standard wheels, the springs and front anti-roll bar are modified and the ride height lowered.

Taking the DB9’s VH architecture as its foundation and retuning some of its key components, the DB9 Sports Pack offers an even more focussed driving experience, with improvements to both high-speed body control and steering response. That means a DB9 Coupe specifically for the enthusiastic driver with a high level of driving skill, who likes to drive quickly, safely and with precision.

The first key to the sharper dynamic balance is a significant reduction in ‘unsprung’ mass which indirectly allows the suspension to react more quickly to inputs such as bumps and cornering forces - resulting in improved grip, steering response, body control and ride quality.

With the DB9 Sports Pack, each five-spoke light alloy wheel gives an unsprung weight saving of more than 1kg, with a small but significant additional saving from the use of titanium wheel nuts. In total, that equates to more than five per cent reduction in unsprung weight on each corner of the car. The new, lighter 19-inch wheels are the same size as the standard wheel and use the same Bridgestone tyre.

The DB9 Sports Pack’s spring rates are increased by 68 per cent at the front of the car and 64 per cent at the rear. The front anti-roll bar is modified, and the dampers are revised to support the new spring and anti-roll bar characteristics. Together, the changes optimise body control and front-end grip without compromising ride quality or adding weight. The ride height is reduced by 6mm, lowering the car’s centre of gravity and further reducing body roll while leaving ample ground clearance and backed up by modified bump stops.

The composite undertray is also replaced, by a load-bearing aluminium panel that performs the same function in managing underbody airflow while adding further structural stiffness, to resist larger lateral loads fed into the front of the car by the uprated front springs and anti-roll bar.

The cumulative effect is significantly improved dynamic response, and especially steering feel - making the DB9 feel lighter, more positive on turn-in, more agile and more involving for the enthusiastic driver. Body control is especially enhanced during high speed manoeuvres, giving the DB9 a more neutral handling feel.

Aston Martin Sales & Marketing Director, Bill Donnelly, says: “This optional Sports Pack will offer driving enthusiasts the opportunity to tailor their DB9 Coupe to deliver an even more rewarding dynamic experience. The Sports Pack offers another addition to the Aston Martin range and provides customers with an even greater choice and the ability to further personalise their DB9.”

11-16-2006, 03:23 AM

03-12-2007, 06:54 PM
1987: Ford buys 75% stake
1994: Ford takes full control

Ford Motor Company press release:


DEARBORN, Mich., March, 12, 2007 – Ford Motor Company [NYSE: F] announced today it has entered into a definitive agreement to sell Aston Martin, its prestigious sports car business, to a consortium comprised of David Richards, John Sinders, Investment Dar and Adeem Investment Co. This transaction is the result of Ford's decision, as announced in August 2006, to explore strategic options for the Aston Martin business as the company restructures its core automotive operations and builds liquidity.

The sale is expected to close during the second quarter and is subject to customary closing conditions, including applicable regulatory approvals. The transaction values Aston Martin at £479 million ($925 million). As part of the transaction, Ford will retain a £40 million ($77 million) investment in Aston Martin. Other terms and conditions specific to the sale are not being disclosed at this time.

"The sale of Aston Martin supports the key objectives of the company, to restructure to operate profitably at lower volumes and changed model mix and to speed the development of new products," said Alan Mulally, Ford's President and chief executive officer. "From Aston Martin's point of view, the sale will provide access to additional capital, which will allow Aston Martin to continue the growth it has experienced under Ford's stewardship. Today's announcement is good for Ford Motor Company, good for Aston Martin and good for the UK. We wish Aston Martin every possible success for the future."

The new owner of Aston Martin is a consortium comprised of: David Richards, founder and chairman of Prodrive, a world-leading motorsport and automotive technology company; John Sinders, an avid Aston Martin collector and a backer of Aston Martin Racing; and Investment Dar and Adeem Investment Co, international investment companies headquartered in Kuwait.


(end of press release)

Aston Martin's CEO, Dr. Ulrich Bez, wanted Aston Martin back in GT racing and not Le Mans Prototypes or open-wheel racing so ignore the F1 rumors. Dr. Ulrich Bez used to work at Porsche and helped keep Porsche alive in the early to mid 1990s with the 968 and 993.

This article claims that Aston Martin made $77,508,000 last year.

"Despite Prodrive's strong background in all-wheel drive, the new owners said that no sport/utility vehicles—or even awd products—are in the Aston pipeline."


(note Aston Martin has built sedans before and after WWII)

05-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Dr. Ulrich Bez, Aston Martin's CEO, will race an N24 Vantage in the race this June. The N24 Vantage is a near-standard V8 Vantage racecar. N stands for Nürburgring while 24 stands for the 24 hour endurance race. The N24 is built and sold by Aston Martin. Bez drove an N24 in last year's race.

The black racecar is a DBRS9 built by Prodrive.

05-01-2007, 06:14 PM
LMP2 and GT2: intended for PRIVATEER teams


I wish someone would race a Lola B07/10 Judd in the American Le Mans Series.

Judd engines (

Judd's new 5.5 liter V-10 makes over 650 hp through the front two intakes.

(from Le Mans Series in Europe)

11-14-2007, 01:01 AM
Marek Reichman has been Aston Martin's Director of Design since at least early 2005.

11-14-2007, 01:08 AM
Marek Reichman is Design director for Aston Martin, a position to which he was appointed June 1, 2005.

Prior to this, he served for two years as director of Design for Product, Interior Design at Aston Martin.

12-11-2007, 01:39 PM

12-16-2007, 06:00 PM

02-06-2008, 10:30 PM

02-13-2008, 11:04 PM
<b>Aston Martin to open Nürburgring Engineering test center</b>

February 13, 2008

03-04-2008, 06:32 PM
press release

March 4, 2008

Aston Martin will introduce a revised version of the company’s critically acclaimed DB9 at the 2008 Geneva Motor Show, which includes significant enhancements to standard specification.

These changes include a revised version of Aston Martin’s 6.0 litre V12 engine to deliver improved power and torque. Peak power of 470bhp (350kW) – increased by 20bhp (30Nm) - is now reached at 6,000rpm, resulting in a power to weight ratio of 267bhp per tonne (199kW/tonne) – an increase of 11bhp per tonne over the existing DB9.

Peak torque of 600Nm is delivered at 5,000rpm, providing even more accessible power for the driver, as well a greater performance feel overall. Accordingly, top speed is now 190mph (306km/h) and the benchmark 0-60mph time improves by 0.3 seconds for the Touchtronic transmission – which benefits from a new valve box and integrated transmission controls to achieve quicker gear shifts – to 4.6 seconds and by 0.1 seconds to 4.6 seconds for the manual gearbox.

The latest DB9 also incorporates a series of chassis developments for both the Coupe and Volante derivates. Bilstein dampers are introduced in addition to <b>revised upper suspension arms</b> and retuned suspension bushes to deliver improved ride quality; aiding greater refinement in the Volante and an enhanced sporting feel in the Coupe. The DB9 Volante also benefits from revisions to the front shear panel which <b>increases torsional rigidity by 10%</b>, further improving refinement.

The DB9 manages to combine all facets of style, quality and usability of a traditional Aston Martin without relying on retrospective detail or design. Accordingly, styling changes to the revised DB9 are subtle, reflecting the car’s timeless design and understated elegance.

Exterior styling changes include the introduction of a new standard 19’’ 10-spoke alloy wheel, new door mirrors and a revised anodised aluminium five-bar grille. In the cabin changes include a new centre console constructed from die cast zinc with a painted iridium silver finish and the introduction of a new Emotion Control Unit (ECU) – first seen on the DBS in 2007. The ECU – constructed from glass, polished stainless steel and polycarbonate - replaces the key used previously for the DB9.

The innovative DB9 introduced an exciting new era for Aston Martin. The 2+2 sports car set new standards in its class due to its astonishing combination of technology, agility and design. The car marked the beginning of a new era for Aston Martin and became the first car to be hand-made at the company’s state-of-the-art facility in Gaydon, Warwickshire.

Deliveries of the updated DB9 begin during quarter two 2008, with prices from £113,950 for the DB9 Coupe and £122,950 for the DB9 Volante.

Bilstein MDS dampers on a Lola B07/10 with a Judd V-10.

03-06-2008, 08:29 PM
with thanks to Prodrive

Great picture from pre-season test (

Automotive Detailing
05-15-2008, 12:32 PM
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Here are some clips from the actual DVD on YouTube:

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06-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Same issue here. Trading DB9 for GT speed. GT vs DB9 I would get the DB9.

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