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shep01
06-30-2005, 06:17 AM
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jbir
06-30-2005, 06:23 AM

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06-30-2005, 08:15 AM

shep01
06-30-2005, 08:18 AM

djdub
06-30-2005, 08:40 AM

butchv
06-30-2005, 08:57 AM

txse46m3
06-30-2005, 10:12 AM
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06-30-2005, 10:24 AM
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06-30-2005, 10:44 AM
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StMedina
06-30-2005, 11:35 AM

Rowley
06-30-2005, 11:49 AM

StMedina
06-30-2005, 11:52 AM

Rowley
06-30-2005, 11:54 AM

StMedina
06-30-2005, 11:55 AM
is that in the tight angled corners, that you've got that "grey" area where powder can't stick...so it looks a little washed out...

Rowley
06-30-2005, 12:40 PM

txse46m3
06-30-2005, 12:45 PM
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Prof. Dingleberry
06-30-2005, 12:49 PM
:P
"what's that word mean?" (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=metallurgical)

StMedina
06-30-2005, 12:50 PM
dammit..not even dictionary.com is work safe.

Prof. Dingleberry
06-30-2005, 12:51 PM

ChuckD
06-30-2005, 12:54 PM
The metalurgical properties between an SSR Comp and a RAC RS110??

Can you say.. "single billet stock" or "they have already been smashed to a point where they were heated to T6"?

A little baking should not hurt them if not done to excess.. I will put this on my little list of things to check on. Now chorming your wheels is a big no no.

txse46m3
06-30-2005, 01:08 PM
that powdercoats are usually done at may cause changes in the aluminium though. Rowley is probably infinitely more educated on this than I am...

For those that don't know, TCK bought a season worth of SSR Comp wheels from Tire Rack years ago. TCK then powdercoated the wheels and proceeded to bend them like wet noodles...1 curb, 1 bump, bang dead. TCK and Tire Rack went back and forth on it w/ each side blaming the other. SSR wouldnt warranty them because the temps involved in baking the powdercoat damaged the wheels.

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ChuckD
06-30-2005, 01:15 PM
I hoped that my wording.. "how could you?" it would have been clear that I was just bustin your ballz like we do back and forth every other day.

Do I need to put my kid gloves back on?

txse46m3
06-30-2005, 01:27 PM
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Rowley
06-30-2005, 01:32 PM
to ash previous coatings are another. If the coater used a burn off oven (typically around 950 F) in lieu of sandblasting, then even an RS110 will be subject to temps close to what in polymers would be considered a glass transion temperature (i.e. loss of crystallinity). However, a good coater would know that is a major no-no. I suspect that may have been the case with the TC Kline and Evosport wheel coating fiascos. Just a guess though.

Typical organic powdercoating cure temps are in the 350-450 F region AFAIK. According to Matweb, 6061-T6 suffers aging effects at 320 F for rolled or drawn products when held at 320 F for 18 hours. The temp goes up to 350 F for extrusions or forgings when held at 350 F for 8 hours. This would indicate to me that the coating/cure temp would have to be chosen wisely when spec'ing a coating for a wheel. Since there are so many blacks, it is pretty easy to do without damaging the integrity of the wheel. Some cure as low as 275 which will not hurt a wheel, even the SSR Comps. Moral of the story, stay away from shady powder coaters when doing structual parts such as wheels. You get what you pay for.

hayaku
06-30-2005, 01:37 PM
current thinking by kinesis is the powder coating process weakened the aluminun....

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Vaheh
06-30-2005, 01:45 PM
It seems as though even some domestic rim makers make faulty centers that aren't even powdercoated.

Rowley
06-30-2005, 01:56 PM

CBsaksiri
06-30-2005, 02:09 PM

ChuckD
06-30-2005, 02:33 PM

ChuckD
06-30-2005, 02:33 PM
Powdercoating is OK. They come powdercoated from the factory.. albiet it is different from most powdercoats that can be had locally.

Rowley make very good points about baking off origanl finsih though. Chrome is still a no no and weakens the wheel.

ChuckD
06-30-2005, 02:34 PM

StMedina
06-30-2005, 02:48 PM

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06-30-2005, 02:56 PM
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ChuckD
06-30-2005, 03:04 PM
But the Kinesis wheel you are referring to is not the same construction.. They do have a couple single piece offerings in their lineup that hail from the same forge... and they charge out the nose for them accordingly.

ChuckD
06-30-2005, 03:05 PM

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06-30-2005, 05:32 PM
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