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08-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Heading to The Glen for a two-day BMWCCA DE (Wednesday and Thursday). Weather suggests Rain with passing thunder storms. I'm sure if it's just rain, we'll be on track.

This is my 1st event at WG, though I'm in the most advanced group with CCA at Lime Rock (meaning, not a beginner). I've also driven 1 day at 6 other tracks (IRP, BeaveRun, NHIS, Summit Point Shenandoah, VIR, Roebling Road, and Nelson Ledges). Each of these events were on PS2s (One Lap - must be street tires). At Lime Rock, I ran PS for 1 season, PS2 for one, then PSCs for this year, though never in the rain.

So, any suggestions for my pending visit to The Glen with much rain in the forecast? One option is to just go on street tires and chalk it up for a learning experience - 1st time at this track. Another is to "just do it" and swap out and wear the PSCs there and back again. Final option (least favorite) is to drive up on PS2s with the PSCs in the trunk, back seat, etc.

Also - pad options for temperatures in the low 70s with rain mixed in. Plan on running my Spec VRs. Other option is my set of Axxis Ultimates. My guess is the Spec VRs - just have no experience with them in the 70s with rain (normally it's 90 and dry, though I'm sure operating temperature won't be that different just because it's 20 degrees cooler and rainy). Any thoughts on pads?

As usually, just looking for some sage advice from this group... Thanks in advance!

08-28-2005, 09:54 PM
DO NOT drive PSCs in the rain. They have zero grip.

I would suggest the PS2s. If it's wet it won't matter.

Your only other option would be either Toyo RA1s (not shaved) which could be driven to and from the track as well as wet and dry on the track or full tread Kumhos. Have run both with success in wet and dry.

Haven't been to WG so not sure about pads.

Others can chime in.

08-28-2005, 10:40 PM
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08-28-2005, 10:45 PM
what the weather will bring there... Spec VR's as the Glen is very hard on brakes...

Have fun!

08-28-2005, 10:48 PM

08-28-2005, 10:49 PM
Personally, I'd take the PSC in the rear/trunk just in case you get lucky and have good weather. But don't mess around with PSCs in the wet, especially at the Glen (you'll know what I mean when you drive the track).

The Spec VRs will be fine. If it truly is raining hard, you won't be stressing them. But again, if you get good weather, you'll want to have the VRs with you.

08-29-2005, 12:12 AM
PS2s are excellent at the Glen, and PSCs are even better. If there is any rain, I would recommend running the PS2s. As someone who has had a shunt at the Glen with PSCs in the rain, I can tell you there are a few slick spots that can really due some damage. Just keep in mind that the Glen's nickname is the "blue tunnel". You'll know what it means when you drive the track.

If you are an advanced driver at Lime Rock, definitely use the Spec VRs. You'll toast the Axxis as you increase you're speed. Keep in mind that most advanced drivers can reach ~145-150 on the back straight, then you need to brake for the bus stop.

Have a great time, it's by far one of my favorite tracks.

08-29-2005, 12:42 AM
Leave DSC on unless you like sliding off the track. They were horible in the rain.

08-29-2005, 08:05 AM
I've needed the full track pads at LRP for quite a while - went from oem to Axxis Ultimates (which were pretty good for a time until I cooked them / cracked, etc.), then to the Spec VRs (excellent). Just wondered about the cold / rain effect - if they were slow to warm / bite in those conditions.

So, looks like I'll swap out the pads for sure and bring the PSCs but plan to drive on the PS2s... Heck, I'm going for a 2 day event, might as well bring everything with me...

Nick325xiT 5spd
08-29-2005, 10:13 AM
Made me feel like a drift master. Any time I touched the throttle, the car was way sideways. Good fun practicing car control.

...we'll just pretend I never had to wave a Civic by.

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