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07-21-2006, 10:04 AM
...So Christine was surfing the net yesterday and she went to the local dealership's website. They listed on their "Inventory" page - 7 new M-Coupes. She said let's go down and look at them so you can test drive and maybe get one. I didn't need much encouragement.

So when we got there it turns out there were zero new M-coupes on the lot. The salesman didn't even know what one was. He asked me if I meant an M3 coupe. I showed him the webpage. He called the sales manager on duty over. Manager dude says that the website was a mistake and they were changing website managers. Apparently the website is being maintained by the owner's grandson. Apparently he was experimenting with the website and they were showing the kinds of cars one could get. Salesman (typical) says, "We could order one for you."

I said that I wanted to test drive one first. Salesman and sales manager on duty said, "... you can test drive the new 3.0Si Coupe." (the only new coupe on the lot) I said why would I want to test drive one that was 75 HP shy of the M-Coupe with a spongy (by comparison - no insult intended) suspension and electronic steer by wire instead of direct steering. I was looking for a companion to my S54 Z3 M-Coupe.

Sales manager on duty suggests I test drive a new Z4 M-Roadster. I reply that I already have a Z4 for my wife, the roadster has less than half the torsional rigidity of the coupe, and the roadster also has the steer by wire, softer springs, and takes more turns of wheel lock-to-lock than the Coupe. He took my name and number and promised to call when they get an M-Coupe.

I left with a very bad impression of their management and product knowledge. I took out my revenge on Darth Vader's tachometer as I left the lot. I wanted them to remember what the S54 engine sounds like :-) I may go visit the dealer in Newport News for my next buy.<img src="">

07-21-2006, 03:32 PM
The Z4 M Roadster doesn't have the electric steering (not really "steer by wire" since there is still a mechanical link between the steering wheel and rack) that the regular Z4 does. It really is the same as the Coupe except for the torsional rigidity.

Stupid that they'd never heard of the M Coupe, though.

dealer=no test drive later. Hubble
07-21-2006, 10:56 PM

07-22-2006, 04:56 PM
...and I didn't even chirp the tires; but Darth Vader's S54 sure sounded sweet. It was my own car so I wasn't putting any stress on their equipment. If they didn't want people to use open them up occasionally; they shouldn't make engines with six throttle bodies.

I've purchased several cars there before; one just in April. I think they will still let me have a test drive if they want me to buy any more in the future; if not then I'm sure Porsche will sell me a Cayman S or Chevy will sell me a C6.<img src="">

07-22-2006, 05:10 PM
I'm not sure if the owner's grandson (a friend of a friend's) or another company updates the inventory on their site or not. Calling is really the only way to get accurate info about the inventory.

I must say, I'm quite dissappointed they didn't know what the M coupe was (or what differentiates it from the Z4 coupe). A family member of mine has been dealing with the older gentleman that works their (in sales) for years. His name slips my mind right now, but he owns a new 6-series, and a Z4 for his wife, I believe. Great guy and he is knowledgable. I was just there a few weeks ago talking with him about the new M coupe. Try and get in touch with him, if you give them another chance.

07-22-2006, 05:15 PM are probably right about the steer by wire on the M Roadster; but there are differences. According to "Winding Road"; "...the lock-to-lock for the M-Coupe is 2.8 turns to the M-Roadster's 3.0 turns. In addition, the GKN-supplied "M Diff" (as the engineers call it) is programmed for faster turn-in than the same unit on the roadster."

I believe the steering would not be a good comparison in a test drive for these reasons. That's why I want to try the actual cat I would be buying.<img src="">

07-22-2006, 05:19 PM
I was just up in Sterling last week visiting some of my E39 friends. I'm going back up for a baseball game next week on the 27th-28th.<img src="">

07-23-2006, 09:48 AM
DC is great, thanks! I think I'm heading back to VA Beach this weekend to detail the coupe and visit with some family that is going to be in town.

Please post your driving impressions of the MZ4 coupe when you find one to drive. The look is growing on me, and I've been reading good things. Should be an interesting car, I think.

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