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sw
11-09-1999, 12:52 PM
i have a question regarding purchasing another car. i have an 89 m3 and would like to put as few miles on it as possible simply because i love it and want it to last forever. i was wondering, i am looking for a daily driver to have in addition to my m3 and was wondering what a viable alternative would be. driving excitement should be considered, so should practicality. i my m fulfills all of these standards, but i don't want to drive it every day (track and canyon carving only). i was thinking of a 914 2.0 liter, or an alfa romeo gtv6, maybe even a 2002. anything european. or should i just get another e30 m3 and have one for track use and another for daily use?

ksh
11-09-1999, 01:38 PM
2002's make great beaters.<p>I'm considering buying one of the RWD corrolas w/ the 4AGE motor as a beater - fuel injected toyota reliability, 7500rpm to spin, rear wheel drive, and costs nearly nothing.

Austin
11-09-1999, 02:22 PM
How 'bout a (don't shoot me) used Accord - something you won't have to sink any money into so you have it for the M

sw
11-09-1999, 05:31 PM
that is not funny. i plan on buying european marques only<br></i>

sw
11-09-1999, 05:59 PM
if you are going japanese, consider the 1st or 2nd gen rx-7. excellent reliability and plenty of power. plus you could always get the 13B engine...<br>they make great cars to auto-x or drive everyday

Mark H.
11-10-1999, 10:43 AM
I was in a similar situation with my 90 M3 --<br>want to keep it all my life. I ended up getting<br>a really nice 87 528e. It has turned out<br>to be a great daily drive -- BMW handling and<br>the Torquey Eta motor is great for around town.<p>

dave
11-11-1999, 08:51 AM
get one of those. '88 or later with the water cooled turbo. When the turbo is tweaked on those, you can do that yourself, it can get to be a pretty fast car. If you have a lot of money to spend, around 7500, go for the SPG. Those are cool cars, fast too.

M
11-14-1999, 02:48 PM
<i>: that is not funny. i plan on buying european marques only<p></i>

Doug
11-18-1999, 11:09 AM
A great car to get would be a '73 through '76 Porsche 914 with the 2.0 litre engine. These cars are durable, fast, extremely fun with their removable targa tops, they also handle very well.

Scott
11-19-1999, 04:46 PM
<i>: A great car to get would be a '73 through '76 Porsche 914 with the 2.0 litre engine. These cars are durable, fast, extremely fun with their removable targa tops, they also handle very well. <p></i><br>I had a 74 2.0l euro piston, 46 Dellorto carbs, 5 angle valve job and cam.....Fast, relatively, durable, I guess, but in all honesty, not a good daily driver. The car was plagued with minor problems to the point of being annoying. It was near perfect after 13k and I sold it off because I was tired of dealing with elctrial issues, carbs. etc. Fuel Injection versions are often plagued with vacumm leaks thus the very good FI system often gets dumped for carbs. In addition the battery tend drip acid on the passenger susp. member. I was luky to find a no rust car....not many are. I would adise you to get a honda civic si, VW Golf/Jetta, or even an AWD Subaru Impreza (which by the way handle awesome, but are down on pw ratio). The key to having a good daily driver is to have one that will not take money away from your "pride and joy". It should cost you little to maintain or to run. Take it from some one who had an E30 and 914 2.0 at the same time. Like two kids fighting over the same food. Just my opinion

Derin
11-20-1999, 01:08 PM
<i>: i have a question regarding purchasing another car. i have an 89 m3 and would like to put as few miles on it as possible simply because i love it and want it to last forever. i was wondering, i am looking for a daily driver to have in addition to my m3 and was wondering what a viable alternative would be. driving excitement should be considered, so should practicality. i my m fulfills all of these standards, but i don't want to drive it every day (track and canyon carving only). i was thinking of a 914 2.0 liter, or an alfa romeo gtv6, maybe even a 2002. anything european. or should i just get another e30 m3 and have one for track use and another for daily use? <p></i>I use my M535i on a daily basis. I can think of few cars which are as cheap to buy and run (cheap parts and if you're gentle will give near 30 mpg)but offer this kind of performance.<br>I wouldn't get a 2002 as a daily driver if you have to do a significant mileage. I love them but we're talking about 30 year old technology.<br>The Alfa wouldn't even come into my equation - where I live (West coast of Scotland!) the thing would fall apart in about 2 weeks !!!<p>Oh and by the way , I wouldn't get a Saab either.<br>Why? because basically they're ****! I know - we just sold our 9000 CD Turbo (thank god!)Fast? yes.<br>Just don't try going round bends in one. Fast bus!<br>Nice seats though!<p>Good luck<br>Derin<br>M535i<br>325i Touring<br>3.0CS<br>2002

sw
11-23-1999, 01:50 PM
i am looking for a lancia delta integrale. if you know of an importer, please tell me. if not an m535 sounds pretty tempting. over here in california they are quite common and fair priced. if i can't get the lancia, i settle for the 535. thanks<p><br><i>: : i have a question regarding purchasing another car. i have an 89 m3 and would like to put as few miles on it as possible simply because i love it and want it to last forever. i was wondering, i am looking for a daily driver to have in addition to my m3 and was wondering what a viable alternative would be. driving excitement should be considered, so should practicality. i my m fulfills all of these standards, but i don't want to drive it every day (track and canyon carving only). i was thinking of a 914 2.0 liter, or an alfa romeo gtv6, maybe even a 2002. anything european. or should i just get another e30 m3 and have one for track use and another for daily use? <p>: I use my M535i on a daily basis. I can think of few cars which are as cheap to buy and run (cheap parts and if you're gentle will give near 30 mpg)but offer this kind of performance.<br>: I wouldn't get a 2002 as a daily driver if you have to do a significant mileage. I love them but we're talking about 30 year old technology.<br>: The Alfa wouldn't even come into my equation - where I live (West coast of Scotland!) the thing would fall apart in about 2 weeks !!!<p>: Oh and by the way , I wouldn't get a Saab either.<br>: Why? because basically they're ****! I know - we just sold our 9000 CD Turbo (thank god!)Fast? yes.<br>: Just don't try going round bends in one. Fast bus!<br>: Nice seats though!<p>: Good luck<br>: Derin<br>: M535i<br>: 325i Touring<br>: 3.0CS<br>: 2002<p></i>

sw
11-23-1999, 02:04 PM
point taken. my deal is, i love older (early 90s late 80s) european cars. i know the 914 and 2002 are older than that, but i want something with character. cars now don't seem to have much of that. thanks for the info though.<p><p><i>: : A great car to get would be a '73 through '76 Porsche 914 with the 2.0 litre engine. These cars are durable, fast, extremely fun with their removable targa tops, they also handle very well. <p>: <br>: I had a 74 2.0l euro piston, 46 Dellorto carbs, 5 angle valve job and cam.....Fast, relatively, durable, I guess, but in all honesty, not a good daily driver. The car was plagued with minor problems to the point of being annoying. It was near perfect after 13k and I sold it off because I was tired of dealing with elctrial issues, carbs. etc. Fuel Injection versions are often plagued with vacumm leaks thus the very good FI system often gets dumped for carbs. In addition the battery tend drip acid on the passenger susp. member. I was luky to find a no rust car....not many are. I would adise you to get a honda civic si, VW Golf/Jetta, or even an AWD Subaru Impreza (which by the way handle awesome, but are down on pw ratio). The key to having a good daily driver is to have one that will not take money away from your "pride and joy". It should cost you little to maintain or to run. Take it from some one who had an E30 and 914 2.0 at the same time. Like two kids fighting over the same food. Just my opinion<p></i>

Derin
11-25-1999, 03:15 PM
<i>: i am looking for a lancia delta integrale. if you know of an importer, please tell me. if not an m535 sounds pretty tempting. over here in california they are quite common and fair priced. if i can't get the lancia, i settle for the 535. thanks<p>: <br>: : : i have a question regarding purchasing another car. i have an 89 m3 and would like to put as few miles on it as possible simply because i love it and want it to last forever. i was wondering, i am looking for a daily driver to have in addition to my m3 and was wondering what a viable alternative would be. driving excitement should be considered, so should practicality. i my m fulfills all of these standards, but i don't want to drive it every day (track and canyon carving only). i was thinking of a 914 2.0 liter, or an alfa romeo gtv6, maybe even a 2002. anything european. or should i just get another e30 m3 and have one for track use and another for daily use? <p>: : I use my M535i on a daily basis. I can think of few cars which are as cheap to buy and run (cheap parts and if you're gentle will give near 30 mpg)but offer this kind of performance.<br>: : I wouldn't get a 2002 as a daily driver if you have to do a significant mileage. I love them but we're talking about 30 year old technology.<br>: : The Alfa wouldn't even come into my equation - where I live (West coast of Scotland!) the thing would fall apart in about 2 weeks !!!<p>: : Oh and by the way , I wouldn't get a Saab either.<br>: : Why? because basically they're ****! I know - we just sold our 9000 CD Turbo (thank god!)Fast? yes.<br>: : Just don't try going round bends in one. Fast bus!<br>: : Nice seats though!<p>: : Good luck<br>: : Derin<br>: : M535i<br>: : 325i Touring<br>: : 3.0CS<br>: : 2002<p></i>Seems we have very similar taste SW !!<br>Keep thinking about Integrales as well! Don't know that much about them yet - I have heard you can have a lot of electrical problems?<p>Lancia always suffered a bad reputation for rust here in the UK in the past - but I think they solvedthis a long time ago. Back in the mid- eighties I owned a Beta Coupe - great handling little car. Rust wasn't a problem but the engine was a bit fragile and just fell terminally apart in the end and as a student at the time I didn't have the money to fix it.<p>If you test drive one please let me know what you think. Which model are you thinking of?<p>Cheers <br>Derin<br>http://www.bmwclassics.freeserve.co.uk<br>

sw
11-25-1999, 06:58 PM
derin-<br>same tastes indeed. cars of that vintage just seem to have more character. the model I was thinking of was an HF. i saw it in a english car magazine and fell in love with it. it turns out, as i decided to read the article, that the magazine was comparing it to an e30 m3! how about that. they said it was quickest on winding roads, so you know it is a mad little car. if i can find one here in the states, i hope too buy it. if you know of companies that have imported it, please drop me an e mail. thanks. <br> sw

Derin
11-26-1999, 05:12 PM
<i>: derin-<br>: same tastes indeed. cars of that vintage just seem to have more character. the model I was thinking of was an HF. i saw it in a english car magazine and fell in love with it. it turns out, as i decided to read the article, that the magazine was comparing it to an e30 m3! how about that. they said it was quickest on winding roads, so you know it is a mad little car. if i can find one here in the states, i hope too buy it. if you know of companies that have imported it, please drop me an e mail. thanks. <br>: sw <p></i>I remember when 'Classic and Sportscar' did their top 100 a while ago - the summary for the Integrale was "..nothing is faster other than in a straight line!"<p>I'll do some research for you - I know there are specialist dealers here in the U.K even though Lancia officially pulled out of trading in the UK some time ago.<p>Good luck<p>Derin

cosine
12-09-1999, 03:46 PM
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