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Fred
12-06-2000, 12:27 AM
I've heard that there will be 3000 car for 2001. Is that from Jan to Sept when the 2002 should start to come? or is it for the whole year from Jan to Dec?<p>Also, any info on how many cars will be produced for 2002<p>Thanks,<br>Fred

Randy G
12-06-2000, 12:56 AM
<i><br>I've heard that there will be 3000 car for 2001. Is that from Jan to Sept when the 2002 should start to come? or is it for the whole year from Jan to Dec?<br></i><p>I talked to my salesman at East Bay BMW today, and he says they don't have a firm figure for the year's production--they've heard from 3000 to 4200 (and before that, 5600, but that was before the engine problems appeared). I would assume this is for January to December, but I could be wrong.<p>BTW, he says their order list is up to 70-something now (I'm at #45).

Steve
12-06-2000, 01:02 AM
<p>BTW, he says their order list is up to 70-something now (I'm at #45).<p>At 2 a month, that is about 3 years worth of<br>waiting list. When did you sign up? I am<br>also on the list there. Let me know if <br>you want to compare notes. <p>Steve

StoneWalk
12-06-2000, 03:32 AM
My read on the many different counts of how many cars are to be produced (5600, then 4000, now 3000) is that it's all roughly the same _rate_ of shipping cars, but the interval that model year 2001 covers keeps shrinking with the delays.<p>Assume that they can ship about 500 cars a month to the US once they get the factory rolling smoothly. A 12 month run at that rate with a bit of a ramp up on the first month or two would have given you the original 5600 number. Then they slipped the date from Sept to Dec, and they got 4000 total over 9 months. Now it looks like cars arriving in Feb/March and a model year as short as 6 months (assume 2002 starts in Sept) - that makes about 3000 cars.<p>Adds up correctly in my book, and makes some common sense.<p>$0.02

Michael
12-06-2000, 12:37 PM
whoa, thank you for that insight. i just thought they were being asses, before i read your message. : )<p><i><br>My read on the many different counts of how many cars are to be produced (5600, then 4000, now 3000) is that it's all roughly the same _rate_ of shipping cars, but the interval that model year 2001 covers keeps shrinking with the delays.<p>Assume that they can ship about 500 cars a month to the US once they get the factory rolling smoothly. A 12 month run at that rate with a bit of a ramp up on the first month or two would have given you the original 5600 number. Then they slipped the date from Sept to Dec, and they got 4000 total over 9 months. Now it looks like cars arriving in Feb/March and a model year as short as 6 months (assume 2002 starts in Sept) - that makes about 3000 cars.<p>Adds up correctly in my book, and makes some common sense.<p>$0.02<p></i><br>

Jim
12-06-2000, 01:14 PM
My calculations were similar, about 570 cars / month.<br>If all 355 BMW USA dealers sell M cars, it comes out to a rather meager 1.4 - 1.6 M3s / dealer/ month. Perhaps large dealers will get more.<p>If there are lists 70 people deep,(lets say an optimistic 3 cars/ month at a big dealer) their car will be produced 1/03 ? Yikes !

Tommy
12-07-2000, 07:25 PM
At least they admit the car exists. I overheard a "salesman" at Weatherford two weeks ago tell a customer that a new M3 was likely not coming to the US at all. He was probably trying to sleaze his way into any sale on the day.


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