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StoneWalk
12-06-2000, 10:55 PM
As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p>

MGuy
12-06-2000, 11:43 PM
<i><br>As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p></i><p>I hear you. I totally agree. I've extended my 97 M3 lease twice in anticipation of the E46. The whole thing is starting to get rediculous. I've just about had it. I'm looking into a 911 now, I may have to tweak the lease terms a bit, to make the payments more reasonable. <p>The demand is so frantically ahead of the supply that it's going to be a dealers market for the forseeable future. Prepare to get screwed royally.<br>

JG
12-06-2000, 11:53 PM
that 996 may not be so far off from an M3 lease....I'm hearing like $850-$900/month for 36months (just tax, tags up front), even at MSRP- the dealers are going to bang everyone on rate.<p>I didn't wait, got a 00 ViperGTS.<p>

Kal
12-07-2000, 01:50 AM
the wait going to be for E46?

ads
12-07-2000, 02:36 AM
see your car till March or April. Smaller dealer #2's might not get theirs till April.<br>

StoneWalk
12-07-2000, 02:47 AM
If you haven't noticed, BMW has been doing a month-for-month slip of the M3 SOP date since something like 6 months ago. Can anyone come up with any reason the Feb 2001 date is any more firm than the mid-2000, Sept 2000, Dec 2000, or Jan 2000 dates?<p>Seriously. I work at a company that ships product, and this is something that you watch for in your suppliers. It usually means that some part of the process is completely out of control, and you really have no idea if or when they will ever deliver. All you have is a guy that checks if the next milestone in the schedule has been met each month, and when it comes up negative they slip the schedule out and once in a while tell people about the slip.<br>

Magic Mtn Dan
12-07-2000, 05:46 AM
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JonM
12-07-2000, 08:04 AM
<i><br>As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p></i><br>

Ran
12-07-2000, 09:45 AM
<i><br>As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p></i><br>

Ran
12-07-2000, 09:46 AM
<i><p>As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p><br></i><br>

ads
12-07-2000, 10:01 AM
I am happy with my modded S4 and would love to get my 3 spot filled, but the way BMW is going...im not sure I want to leave Audi.

MGuy
12-07-2000, 11:52 AM
<i><br>that 996 may not be so far off from an M3 lease....I'm hearing like $850-$900/month for 36months (just tax, tags up front), even at MSRP- the dealers are going to bang everyone on rate.<p>I didn't wait, got a 00 ViperGTS.<p></i><p>Are you sure? That would be awesome. The #'s I got from carsdirect.com where quite discouraging: > $1200.00/mo. <p>BTW, how do you like the Viper? It looks like at awesome car, and the performance seems out of this world!<p>Thanx for you input.<br>

F1 Fan
12-07-2000, 12:24 PM
<i> Very good point! I test drove a 911 a few months back and was amazed! That water cooled flat 6 revs like a superbike and sounds awesome. I am on the E46 M3 list at two dealers in different cites, but my estimated delivery date is now fall 2001 if I am lucky! Hell, I've already sold my M Roadster and the cash is invested, I may just wait another year and go for the 911! BMW is not making it's core customers very happy with their handling of the situation!!!<p><p>As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p></i><br>

Matt the car nut
12-07-2000, 04:14 PM
<i><p>As I watch the ongoing and seemingly endless series of poorly communicated production slips on the E46 M3 that I long for, I pause for a moment and ponder that if the current trend continues, I'll be able to earn enough interest on the ~$50k that's in the bank waiting to buy the M3 to upgrade to a fully loaded 996...<p>I'm hoping such thoughts might light a fire under BMW's feet. An M3 at $46k today is a raging automotive performance bargain. The same car delivered two years from now is a lot more questionable. And yes I've already been on the waiting list a good long while, but now we're seeing predictions of customer deliveries in April and 2 or 3 a month at big dealers, it really will be into 2002 before they get very far through the waiting list.<p>Earth to BMW: Whatever the problem is, fix it and get the factory rolling. Now. After some of us get frustrated and taste Porsche for the first time, we might not be back. At last check, Porsche was taking steps to increase production to meet demand. What is BMW's plan?<p><br></i><br>


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