Roadfly.com         Roadfly Home | Features | Car Review Videos | Car Reviews | Cars For Sale | Used Car Parts Classifieds | Forum | Car Review Archives | Forum Archives Index



PDA



Jose Cuervo
12-07-2000, 01:21 AM

joe
12-07-2000, 01:37 AM
<i><br> <p></i><br>

Jose Cuervo
12-07-2000, 01:47 AM
<i><p> <p><br></i><br>

William
12-07-2000, 03:09 AM
<i><br> <p></i><br>

xlo
12-07-2000, 03:12 AM
correct me if im wrong--but i believe the aluminum block V8 from the M5 is lighter.... <br> <p><br></i><br>

Mark G
12-07-2000, 04:02 AM
I'd take an Aluminum block 3.5+ Liter I-6 over the M5 V8 (because it would be lighter, still high revving, and smooth), but the V8 over the 3.25 L Fe block I-6 (because the V8 has better torque, is more compact, and weighs less).<br>

joe
12-07-2000, 04:03 AM
higher revving - better response<br>fits easier into 3series bay, the m5 v8 doesnt <br> even fit... m5 must have recirculating ball <br> steering for engine to fit<br>more fuel efficient<br>possibly cheaper and easier to mass produce<br> if not i stand corrected<br>theres likely more but mostly:<p>more in character with 3 series... the "lesser" of the two but more power per cylinder and per liter at less cost

Young1
12-07-2000, 09:30 AM
<i><br> <p></i><br>

StoneWalk
12-07-2000, 05:08 PM
Based on the completed weight of the Hartge 3 series with M5 V8 in the nose, it looks like the weight of the I6 vs V8 engine is mostly a wash - the car ends up in the ~3400 lb range both ways.<p>If there is a weight advantage on one side or the other, it must be fairly small.<p>$0.02

TommyO
12-07-2000, 06:07 PM
It definately suits the M3 character better. It would be nice to see a 3.4L - 3.5L though.<p>There's always been something alluring about a naturally-aspirated six cylinder that could compete with the V8s.

Bob ///M3
12-07-2000, 07:17 PM
The V8 block is shorter allowing better engine placement.<p>Count on the M3 having a V8 in the not too distant future!<p>Bob ///M3<p><br><i><br>Based on the completed weight of the Hartge 3 series with M5 V8 in the nose, it looks like the weight of the I6 vs V8 engine is mostly a wash - the car ends up in the ~3400 lb range both ways.<p>If there is a weight advantage on one side or the other, it must be fairly small.<p>$0.02<p></i><br>

Tommy
12-07-2000, 07:19 PM
I think the ideal package would be an aluminum block I6 w/ upgrades to power and torque and still a high revver...it would be sweet and we all know M can do it!

jedinite
12-07-2000, 07:26 PM
~330 HP and ~260 torque, with those nice flat curves (or at least, in HP, respectable not-only-high-at-peak curves). I don't care if it's a 3.2L I6, or a V8, or what. <p>Give me sub-5 second 1/4 mile, top speed of 175 or so, and I'll be totally happy with the engine. I want that engine performance, with the traditional M3 superb handling. That's most of what I care about :)

StoneWalk
12-07-2000, 09:03 PM
Since it seems that it will be many months before BMW is able to ship us ANY M3's at all, how do you define "not too distant future" with respect to BMW doing what they claim to have no plans for (put a V8 in the nose)?<p>Is this just your own wishful thinking, or is it based on actual information from the factory which would have to do the work? Just because it fits does not mean they will do it...<br>

Psyence
12-07-2000, 09:28 PM
Given engines of the same weight, packaging dimensions, and maximum power output, I would take a larger displacement, lower revving engine with a broader torque curve than a smaller displacement, high-revving engine that's less robust in the torque department any day.<p>The only reason I can think of to chose the latter woud be for the "scream" :)<p><i><br>I think the ideal package would be an aluminum block I6 w/ upgrades to power and torque and still a high revver...it would be sweet and we all know M can do it!<p></i><br>

Bob ///M3
12-08-2000, 02:07 PM
I have no idea when! I can tell you that BMW is "still" working on a V8 for the E46 body. Information on this comes from highly reliable sources within big league racing teams that travel worldwide and know what is going on. Outside vendors for BMW continue to perform various work on the project.<p>BMW may give up on a V8 for the E46 but they haven't yet!<p>Bob ///M3 <p><br><i><br>Since it seems that it will be many months before BMW is able to ship us ANY M3's at all, how do you define "not too distant future" with respect to BMW doing what they claim to have no plans for (put a V8 in the nose)?<p>Is this just your own wishful thinking, or is it based on actual information from the factory which would have to do the work? Just because it fits does not mean they will do it...<p></i><br>

Mike W.
12-08-2000, 02:19 PM
<i><p> <p><br></i><br>


Roadfly Home | Car Reviews | Forum Archives Index