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Chris
03-23-2001, 09:37 PM
My M3 will be at the dealer in two week (silver with black). My question is this: I can get a used 2000 M5 with 9000 miles on it for $69000. Now I can sell the M3 for $7k over list. Do I take the profit on the M3 and roll it into the M5 or is the M3 going to be a better car? It will be a daily driver (except in the winter which I have the X5 4.4). Anyone drive the demo yet? Any help? Thanks in advance

faris
03-23-2001, 09:46 PM
<i><br>My M3 will be at the dealer in two week (silver with black). My question is this: I can get a used 2000 M5 with 9000 miles on it for $69000. Now I can sell the M3 for $7k over list. Do I take the profit on the M3 and roll it into the M5 or is the M3 going to be a better car? It will be a daily driver (except in the winter which I have the X5 4.4). Anyone drive the demo yet? Any help? Thanks in advance<p></i><br>

ALEX
03-23-2001, 09:49 PM
M3 will have nowhere as much torque...the M5 is awesome...and you will pull away from an M3 and in gear acceleration is a lot faster in M5. M5 is a monster down low...M3 is not. M5 will be exclusive too....M3's will be everywhere in a few years....<br>

Chris
03-23-2001, 09:55 PM
<i><br>M3 will have nowhere as much torque...the M5 is awesome...and you will pull away from an M3 and in gear acceleration is a lot faster in M5. M5 is a monster down low...M3 is not. M5 will be exclusive too....M3's will be everywhere in a few years....<p></i><br>Thanks Alex,<br>I just can't justify not taking the 7k off the table ,because I would have to put that into the cost of the car if I didn't sell it now VS 2years from now when I will be getting list price again.

than the M5!!! SAFROLE
03-23-2001, 10:09 PM
But if you're talking top-end speed, the M5 will definitely win.<p>SAF

Chris
03-23-2001, 10:17 PM
<i><br>But if you're talking top-end speed, the M5 will definitely win.<p>SAF<br>I thought the M5 and M3 were both 4.8 0 to 60 ? Do you think the M3 will launch better?<br></i><br>

SAFROLE
03-23-2001, 10:52 PM
<i><p>But if you're talking top-end speed, the M5 will definitely win.<p>SAF<br>I thought the M5 and M3 were both 4.8 0 to 60 ? Do you think the M3 will launch better?<p></i><br>

acceleration rate. SAF
03-23-2001, 11:14 PM
<i><p>But if you're talking top-end speed, the M5 will definitely win.<p>SAF<br>I thought the M5 and M3 were both 4.8 0 to 60 ? Do you think the M3 will launch better?<p></i><br>

Chris
03-23-2001, 11:22 PM
<i> Once out of the hole the M5 should pull the M3 <br>M5 3976 curb 400hp 369lb<br>M3 3454 curb 343hp 261lb<br>M5 HP/Weight = 9.94hp per lb <br>M3 HP/Weight = 10.37hp per lb<br>M5 TQ/Weight = 10.77 per LB<br>M3 TQ/Weight = 13.23 per LB<br>Souldn't the M5 once being done with wheel spin pull the M3 all the way up. Look at the #'s the TQ stands out big. I know gearing is different but not very. Just a thought.<p><p><p>But if you're talking top-end speed, the M5 will definitely win.<p>SAF<br>I thought the M5 and M3 were both 4.8 0 to 60 ? Do you think the M3 will launch better?<p><br></i><br>

Mystikal in TO
03-23-2001, 11:35 PM
First of all, the M3 and M5 have identical gearing as far as I know, so don't think that the M3 will have any advantage there. <p>But the one component you forgot was the M Differential. It makes launching the car a synch according to reviews, providing "the optimum balance between wheelspin and traction." However, I think that at speeds above our legal limits or from a rolling start, the M5 will win.<p>PS - Road & Track got 0-60 in 5.0 for the M5, 4.7 for the M3. Something to think about...

the M3 will take the M5. SAF
03-24-2001, 12:08 AM
<i><br>First of all, the M3 and M5 have identical gearing as far as I know, so don't think that the M3 will have any advantage there. <p>But the one component you forgot was the M Differential. It makes launching the car a synch according to reviews, providing "the optimum balance between wheelspin and traction." However, I think that at speeds above our legal limits or from a rolling start, the M5 will win.<p>PS - Road & Track got 0-60 in 5.0 for the M5, 4.7 for the M3. Something to think about...<p></i><br>

Mystikal in TO
03-24-2001, 12:24 AM

SAF
03-24-2001, 12:32 AM
The M-differential will give the M3 an advantage from taking-off the line first over the M5. Is this what you are saying? If so, then yes, I agree with you in that the M3 can win in the short run, but in the long run the M5 will win. Both cars have nearly the same 0-60 time, but that is not to say that they have the same acceleration rate. All I'm saying is that I really believe the M3 to be faster out of the hole than the M5.<p>Damn hippy! ;-p<p>SAFROLE<p>

pratt
03-24-2001, 01:39 AM
<i><br>0-60 is basically a tie. After 60 mph the m5 will be faster, but for myself this doesn't matter so much as most of don't (on a daily basis) drive that much over 60 anyway. In regards to cornering, the m3 will definately win. Also the m5 is a very large car ( I have a 540 now and it seems like I'm driving around with alot of excess car). In the m3 I'll feel like I'm more in a sports car. In regards to luxury, the m5 wins hands down (all leather interior, alcantra lining, etc.)<br> <p><br></i><br>

lk
03-24-2001, 02:54 AM
<i><br>My M3 will be at the dealer in two week (silver with black). My question is this: I can get a used 2000 M5 with 9000 miles on it for $69000. Now I can sell the M3 for $7k over list. Do I take the profit on the M3 and roll it into the M5 or is the M3 going to be a better car? It will be a daily driver (except in the winter which I have the X5 4.4). Anyone drive the demo yet? Any help? Thanks in advance<p></i><br>

StoneWalk
03-24-2001, 04:11 AM
<br>Wait - if they both go 0-60 in roughly the same time, that's pretty much a definition of acceleration over that interval isn't it? Acceleration commonly being defined as change in velocity over time?<p>Now how they accomplish the feat may be different, but across the 0-60 interval they do have the same average acceleration rate in my book.<p>Yes, the M5 will pull ahead at higher speeds, mostly because it's weight penalty becomes less and less important as air drag vs hp becomes the dominant factor.<p>Last comment: Even if the two cars have the same gearing, the M3 has more revs available, so at several times during an acceleration run the M3 is still winding out a lower gear while the M5 had to upshift (which didn't bother the M5 as much since it does have more torque to work with). Just don't make the mistake of assuming that with the same gearing, you can look at the two torque/weight ratios and determine overall acceleration rates.<br>

Jack
03-25-2001, 07:45 PM
<i><p>0-60 is basically a tie. After 60 mph the m5 will be faster, but for myself this doesn't matter so much as most of don't (on a daily basis) drive that much over 60 anyway. In regards to cornering, the m3 will definately win. Also the m5 is a very large car ( I have a 540 now and it seems like I'm driving around with alot of excess car). In the m3 I'll feel like I'm more in a sports car. In regards to luxury, the m5 wins hands down (all leather interior, alcantra lining, etc.)<br> <p><br></i><br>


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