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Hugo
03-17-1998, 01:04 PM
Hi everyone,<p>This might be a strange question but here it goes. I notice that a few people on this message board are quite conscious, (in love) with their z3's paint job. I too, after reading their messages, am conscious and (in love) with my z3 paint job. Anyway, I've been experimenting with different wax and spray polishers and currently have 2-3 different types of wax/polishers on my car. Well here are my questions :<br>1. I know that wax and polishers are good for your car. Can they damage your cars paint.?<br>2. can having multiple brands of wax/polishers on your car at one time damage the paint eventually... or should i just stick with one brand. My car is black so I like to use the turtle wax color wax which actually makes the black paint shine! Then I like to use Meguirs spray detail polish to shine the rest of the car...<p>Sorry for the long questions...

Paul
03-17-1998, 04:26 PM
<br>I may not be an expert on car waxes, but I have learned over the years how to keep a car looking new for as long as possible. I to have a Black Z3. I like the a four step approach to keep my car looking good. As you know with black you almost need to wash it everyday to keep it clean. But when its clean... there is nothing else like it on the road.<p>1. I wash it with car wash it with everyday carwash.<p>2. If needed I will use meguiars Mirror Glaze Fine-Cut Cleaner #2. This will remove any light oxidation, swrills or small scratches. I would not recommend using this unless it needs it. I have not used it on my Black Z3 yet. I use this product with an orbital buffer. I remove it by hand.<p>3. Next step is to apply Show Car Glaze Meguiars # 7. I apply this by hand and remove by hand. It goes on real easy and does not dry.You basically rub it in until it disappears. It gives you that "wet car look". I have been playing with Meguiars #9 Swirl Remover, and I seem to like it also.<p>4.The final step is to wax the car. I use Meguiars Carnuaba paste wax. I apply by hand and remove it with my orbital buffer. <p>I know this sounds like a lot of work, but once you get it the way you like it, the maintaince is very easy. Plus the look is well worth it. The orbital buffer is a must in my book. It cuts your time in half. <p>To answer some of you questions. I think that sticking with the same brand of products is a safe bet. As to damaging your paint. Not using a wax will definitely destroy your paint job in the long run. Too much cleaning (ie rubbing compound) can remove your paint, so over the years when oxida tion gets the best of your paint job, there will be no paint left to de-oxidize. If your polishing rag takes on the color of your paint job then you are removing layers of paint. I have heard that you should compound you car once every 1-2 years. I am not sure about that now with the clear coats.<br><i>: Hi everyone,<p>: This might be a strange question but here it goes. I notice that a few people on this message board are quite conscious, (in love) with their z3's paint job. I too, after reading their messages, am conscious and (in love) with my z3 paint job. Anyway, I've been experimenting with different wax and spray polishers and currently have 2-3 different types of wax/polishers on my car. Well here are my questions :<br>: 1. I know that wax and polishers are good for your car. Can they damage your cars paint.?<br>: 2. can having multiple brands of wax/polishers on your car at one time damage the paint eventually... or should i just stick with one brand. My car is black so I like to use the turtle wax color wax which actually makes the black paint shine! Then I like to use Meguirs spray detail polish to shine the rest of the car...<p><br>Paul<br>in Sunny San Diego<br>98 2.8 Z3 Blk,Blk,Blk.<p>: Sorry for the long questions...<p></i>

RIchC
03-17-1998, 04:42 PM
Can't really answer about wax harming paint, but can comment on what yields good results - 10 years of black cars (87 Scirocco, 89 Taurus, 92 Maxima, 95 Miata, 97 Z3) have taught me the following:<p>1. Turtlewax black, folowed very quickly (don't let it dry too much, do only one section at a time) by Zymol Carbon (thus combining one of the cheapest and most expensive waxes in the world) yields the most superb results on black cars! Interestingly enough - I'm not happy with either wax when used alone (I discovered this by accident after running out of Turtle Wax black for the Maxima and finishing up with Zymol, which I had plenty of because it had been so disappointing on the Miata). <p>Meguires new car glaze, followed by Meguires carnuba a close second, but leaves white residue. I also like Liquid Glass.<p>2. Meguires detail is good, Eagle One "wet look" is better. "Slick Stuff Detailer" (comes in a blue bottle, usually available from speed shops) is also very good.<p>3. For quick shining and detailing, nothing beats Dri Wash, available from <A HREF="http://www.mossmotors.com/miata/catalog/onlinecatalog.html">Moss Motors</A></FONT>, look at car care products, down near the bottom. It's a quick wax which sprays on. They claim you can also wash your car with it, but I wouldn't use it on a dirty car.<p>Generally speaking, a "polish" will ultimately damage your finish because the act of <i>polishing</i> rubs off a few molecular layers of paint to make it more shiney. Wax does not do this - it does the opposite - it fills in cracks and such. Therefore, you should always follow up the use of a polish with a wax for protection.<p><p><A HREF="http://www.meguiars.com/">Meguires Home Page</A></FONT> also gives you the opportunity to get a "Car Care Report" based on your particular situation (you fill in the weather, color of the car and how good you want it to look and it tells you which Meguires products to use.<p><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><p><p><p>

byron
03-17-1998, 04:56 PM
<i>: <br>: I may not be an expert on car waxes, but I have learned over the years how to keep a car looking new for as long as possible. I to have a Black Z3. I like the a four step approach to keep my car looking good. As you know with black you almost need to wash it everyday to keep it clean. But when its clean... there is nothing else like it on the road.<p>: 1. I wash it with car wash it with everyday carwash.<p>: 2. If needed I will use meguiars Mirror Glaze Fine-Cut Cleaner #2. This will remove any light oxidation, swrills or small scratches. I would not recommend using this unless it needs it. I have not used it on my Black Z3 yet. I use this product with an orbital buffer. I remove it by hand.<p>: 3. Next step is to apply Show Car Glaze Meguiars # 7. I apply this by hand and remove by hand. It goes on real easy and does not dry.You basically rub it in until it disappears. It gives you that "wet car look". I have been playing with Meguiars #9 Swirl Remover, and I seem to like it also.<p>: 4.The final step is to wax the car. I use Meguiars Carnuaba paste wax. I apply by hand and remove it with my orbital buffer. <p>: I know this sounds like a lot of work, but once you get it the way you like it, the maintaince is very easy. Plus the look is well worth it. The orbital buffer is a must in my book. It cuts your time in half. <p>: To answer some of you questions. I think that sticking with the same brand of products is a safe bet. As to damaging your paint. Not using a wax will definitely destroy your paint job in the long run. Too much cleaning (ie rubbing compound) can remove your paint, so over the years when oxida tion gets the best of your paint job, there will be no paint left to de-oxidize. If your polishing rag takes on the color of your paint job then you are removing layers of paint. I have heard that you should compound you car once every 1-2 years. I am not sure about that now with the clear coats.<br>: : Hi everyone,<p>: : This might be a strange question but here it goes. I notice that a few people on this message board are quite conscious, (in love) with their z3's paint job. I too, after reading their messages, am conscious and (in love) with my z3 paint job. Anyway, I've been experimenting with different wax and spray polishers and currently have 2-3 different types of wax/polishers on my car. Well here are my questions :<br>: : 1. I know that wax and polishers are good for your car. Can they damage your cars paint.?<br>: : 2. can having multiple brands of wax/polishers on your car at one time damage the paint eventually... or should i just stick with one brand. My car is black so I like to use the turtle wax color wax which actually makes the black paint shine! Then I like to use Meguirs spray detail polish to shine the rest of the car...<p>: <br>: Paul<br>: in Sunny San Diego<br>: 98 2.8 Z3 Blk,Blk,Blk.<p>: : Sorry for the long questions...<p></i>Hey Paul, what's your rec. on a good buffer?<br>Byron

Paul
03-17-1998, 06:03 PM
I use a Blacken Decker "handy Buffer". They have replaced that model with the 6" Random Orbit Polisher Model # BP900. <p>I would stay away from those buffers that you attach to your power drill or those that you can't control the rotational speed. Or youwill end up removing the paint down to the primer. I speak from experince.<p>Just one more note....<br>I use the wool pad for compounding out oxidation.<br>I use the sponge pad to apply wax.. when I get lazy. I use tons of the terry cloth pads to remove the wax. One side note to that is it leaves makes a lot of dust from the dried wax. I just use a clean terry cloth towel to dust it off. <br>: : I may not be an expert on car waxes, but I have learned over the years how to keep a car looking new for as long as possible. I to have a Black Z3. I like the a four step approach to keep my car looking good. As you know with black you almost need to wash it everyday to keep it clean. But when its clean... there is nothing else like it on the road.<p>: : 1. I wash it with car wash it with everyday carwash.<p>: : 2. If needed I will use meguiars Mirror Glaze Fine-Cut Cleaner #2. This will remove any light oxidation, swrills or small scratches. I would not recommend using this unless it needs it. I have not used it on my Black Z3 yet. I use this product with an orbital buffer. I remove it by hand.<p>: : 3. Next step is to apply Show Car Glaze Meguiars # 7. I apply this by hand and remove by hand. It goes on real easy and does not dry.You basically rub it in until it disappears. It gives you that "wet car look". I have been playing with Meguiars #9 Swirl Remover, and I seem to like it also.<p>: : 4.The final step is to wax the car. I use Meguiars Carnuaba paste wax. I apply by hand and remove it with my orbital buffer. <p>: : I know this sounds like a lot of work, but once you get it the way you like it, the maintaince is very easy. Plus the look is well worth it. The orbital buffer is a must in my book. It cuts your time in half. <p>: : To answer some of you questions. I think that sticking with the same brand of products is a safe bet. As to damaging your paint. Not using a wax will definitely destroy your paint job in the long run. Too much cleaning (ie rubbing compound) can remove your paint, so over the years when oxida tion gets the best of your paint job, there will be no paint left to de-oxidize. If your polishing rag takes on the color of your paint job then you are removing layers of paint. I have heard that you should compound you car once every 1-2 years. I am not sure about that now with the clear coats.<br>: : : Hi everyone,<p>: : : This might be a strange question but here it goes. I notice that a few people on this message board are quite conscious, (in love) with their z3's paint job. I too, after reading their messages, am conscious and (in love) with my z3 paint job. Anyway, I've been experimenting with different wax and spray polishers and currently have 2-3 different types of wax/polishers on my car. Well here are my questions :<br>: : : 1. I know that wax and polishers are good for your car. Can they damage your cars paint.?<br>: : : 2. can having multiple brands of wax/polishers on your car at one time damage the paint eventually... or should i just stick with one brand. My car is black so I like to use the turtle wax color wax which actually makes the black paint shine! Then I like to use Meguirs spray detail polish to shine the rest of the car...<p>: : <br>: : Paul<br>: : in Sunny San Diego<br>: : 98 2.8 Z3 Blk,Blk,Blk.<p>: : : Sorry for the long questions...<p>: Hey Paul, what's your rec. on a good buffer?<br>: Byron<p></i>


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