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Matt F.
03-18-1998, 03:02 AM
...all coated with goop and still wearing her protecting cover my baby has been seen sitting lonely in the dealers parking lot. A quick telephone call later and she's ready for delivery on Friday (3 more days of hell!). <p>Buuuut, that was the good news. The bad news is I didn't get the Beige top that I wanted. Apperantly someone at my company (including myself!) overlooked a small sentence, in what we thought was an insignificant document, that stated the top was ordered in Black. Why the leasing company ordered in Black in the first place is a mystery but due to that document there is nothing I can due. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with it.<p></CENTER><br><B>Here is what I will be driving:</B><BR><FONT size=-1>(in Germany everything is an option)</FONT><br><TABLE BORDER><br><TR><TD><B>Number<B></TD><TD><B>Description<B></TD></TR><br><TR><TD>-</TD><TD><B>Montreal Blue 2.8, Black top<B></TD></TR><br><TR><TD>-</TD><TD>Beige Extended Leather incl. M steering wheel (710)</TD></TR> <br><TR><TD>704</TD><TD>M suspension incl. Limited slip differential</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>299</TD><TD>17" Tire package (Round spoke design)<BR>7 1/2Jx17 225/45 R 17 (front)<BR>8 1/2Jx17 245/40 R 17 (rear)</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>481</TD><TD>Sport seats</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>395</TD><TD>Roll bars</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>314</TD><TD>Heated Mirrors and Windshield-Washers</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>438</TD><TD>Wood console (Accorn)</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>305</TD><TD>Remote control for central locks</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>540</TD><TD>Cruise control</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>354</TD><TD>Green tinted windshield</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>530</TD><TD>Air conditioning</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>658</TD><TD>BMW Business CD RDS Radio</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>-</TD><TD>Windscreen (the one that goes behind you)</TD></TR><br><TR><TD>-</TD><TD>Chrome exhaust tips</TD></TR><br></TABLE><br></CENTER><p>Matt F. (Z-Less till Friday!!!)<p>PS. Pictures will come soon...

Carter
03-18-1998, 04:21 AM
<FONT COLOR=#0040AF SIZE=5><B>Great news Matt...congratulations!</B></FONT><p>I noticed you listed <B>#658 BMW Business CD RDS Radio</B>. A while ago, I had recieved a Z3 accessories brochure from BMW Germany's <A HREF="http://www.bmw.de">website</A>. In it, they list the In-Dash CD player as <B>65-12-8-360-284 BMW Business CD RDS</B><p>Do you know if the radio frequency range is the same there as it is here? In other words, if you were to bring your roadster back into the US, will you be able to pick up the AM/FM stations?<p>I'd like to stay with an OEM unit and may contact Q.I. for availability if it'll work here.<p><A HREF="http://www.mcs.net/~carter/z3reunion"><IMG SRC="http://www.mcs.net/~carter/oz/z3carter.gif" ALT="Carter" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=130 WIDTH=130 ALIGN=LEFT></A><BR><BR><I>again, congrats!</I><BR>Carter<BR>'96&#189; <FONT COLOR=#000000 FACE="Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,Sans">Z3 <I>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B></I></FONT><BR><FONT COLOR=#FF0000 FACE="Serpentine,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,Sans">—<B><I>roadster</I></B>—</FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL>

Matt F.
03-18-1998, 05:12 AM
Hey Carter, do you ever sleep?<p>As ar as I know the AM tuning steps are different (Help here me out Alan, what concensis(sp) did we reach). I believe there is no prob with the FM tuning being that it should tune in steps of 1(I can tell you for sure on Friday). The freqs' are the same (80 somthing to 107 somthing). The only problem I can forsee is RDS. I am not sure if the US RDS uses the same freqs' as the EU RDS. <p>To tell you the truth I am not is the Radio is worth it. It costs about $750 (DM1350.00) and for thart money you can get a pretty good Blaupunkt or Alpine.<p>Matt F. (Z-Less till Friday)

Alan
03-18-1998, 09:23 AM
<i>: As ar as I know the AM tuning steps are different (Help here me out Alan, what concensis(sp) did we reach). I believe there is no prob with the FM tuning being that it should tune in steps of 1(I can tell you for sure on Friday). The freqs' are the same (80 somthing to 107 somthing). The only problem I can forsee is RDS. I am not sure if the US RDS uses the same freqs' as the EU RDS.</i><p>There was <a href="http://www.qualityparts.com/boards/5series/messages/746.html">a posting</a> on the <a href="http://www.qualityparts.com/boards/5series/">5 series message board</a> by Noah where he had installed a Euro Business RDS CD unit in his 528i. Like Matt said, the FM goes in steps of .1 (101.1, 101.2, 101.3) instead of steps of .2 like here, so there's no problem tuning FM stations. However, AM goes in different steps so you can't get all AM stations. The RDS also works although very few stations seem to support it in the U.S.<p>The only thing I'm not sure about the Z3 is whether or not the CD head unit would be plug-compatible with the U.S. Z3s. If it wasn't wired to mate up with the U.S. amplifier, you might as well buy an aftermarket unit if you're going to have to munch wires anyway.<p><br>--Alan

Matt F.
03-18-1998, 09:30 AM
<i>...you're going to have to munch wires anyway.</i><p>..."munch wires"... Ha,(big grin) I've never heard that expresion Alan, I love it!

Carter
03-18-1998, 09:36 AM
<FONT COLOR=#808080><i>: The only problem I can forsee is RDS. I am not sure if the US RDS uses the same freqs' as the EU RDS.</I></FONT><p>If it were, then the <A HREF="http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KZOV9NOPP26/rdsstations.html">stations on Crutchfield's RDS list</A> suits me fine. There are even a number of stations in TX!<p>Heck, as longs as the unit's plug'n play was a match, I'd be happy with an OEM CD & FM unit (Never touched the AM) that would maintain its uselessness outside the car and matched the interior aesthetics.<p><A HREF="http://www.mcs.net/~carter/z3reunion"><IMG SRC="http://www.mcs.net/~carter/oz/z3carter.gif" ALT="Carter" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=130 WIDTH=130 ALIGN=LEFT></A><BR><BR><BR>Carter<BR>'96&#189; <FONT COLOR=#000000 FACE="Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,Sans">Z3 <I>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B></I></FONT><BR><FONT COLOR=#FF0000 FACE="Serpentine,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,Sans">—<B><I>roadster</I></B>—</FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL>

Fred Meloan
03-18-1998, 09:38 AM
Hi Matt,<p>First let me say "Congratulations!" I know it has been a long time for you to wait for the Z but I assure you the anxiety will all melt away in the first minute you are behind the wheel and you will realize it was all worth the wait.<p>In the cobwebs of my old brain I seem to recall a post to one of the boards that indicated that the RDS radio has a switch on the back to change the AM section tuning steps so that the radio becomes U.S. compatible. I know you don't ever plan to ship the 2.8 back to the U.S. but there are a lot of folks here who would love to have the in-dash CD heat unit that you are getting if we could use it here. Please do a little research for the gang here and we will elevate you to "hero" status.<p>Take Care and Enjoy the Z.<p>Fred Meloan<p><br>

Alan
03-18-1998, 09:44 AM
<i>: ..."munch wires"... Ha,(big grin) I've never heard that expresion Alan, I love it!</i><p>man after watching southpark i almost slipped and said something else.<p>heh!<p><br>--alan

Matt F.
03-18-1998, 09:48 AM
this weekend so I might have plenty of time to disect(sp) my dash and look at that for you. <p>Thanks Fred and I am sure if I survive until Friday (I feel like an 8 year old on Christmas eve) everything will be fine.<p>Matt F.

walter
03-18-1998, 10:07 AM
<i>: <FONT COLOR=#0040AF SIZE=5><B>Great news Matt...congratulations!</B></FONT><p>: I noticed you listed <B>#658 BMW Business CD RDS Radio</B>. A while ago, I had recieved a Z3 accessories brochure from BMW Germany's <A HREF="http://www.bmw.de">website</A>. In it, they list the In-Dash CD player as <B>65-12-8-360-284 BMW Business CD RDS</B><p>: Do you know if the radio frequency range is the same there as it is here? In other words, if you were to bring your roadster back into the US, will you be able to pick up the AM/FM stations?<p>: I'd like to stay with an OEM unit and may contact Q.I. for availability if it'll work here.<p>: <A HREF="http://www.mcs.net/~carter/z3reunion"><IMG SRC="http://www.mcs.net/~carter/oz/z3carter.gif" ALT="Carter" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=130 WIDTH=130 ALIGN=LEFT></A><BR><BR><I>again, congrats!</I><BR>Carter<BR>'96? <FONT COLOR=#000000 FACE="Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,Sans">Z3 <I>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B>_<B>7</B></I></FONT><BR><FONT COLOR=#FF0000 FACE="Serpentine,Arial,Helvetica,Swiss,Sans"><B><I>roadster</I></B></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><p></i>

Nancy
03-18-1998, 10:12 AM
Now you have to fight with Christiane to see who gets to drive the baby home.<br><A HREF="http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~nkc/z3.html"><IMG BORDER=0 SRC="http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~nkc/pics/Z3/nancysig.jpg" width=127 height=99 alt="--Nancy"></A><br>

ulrich
03-18-1998, 10:19 AM
<i>: ...all coated with goop and still wearing her protecting cover my baby has been seen sitting lonely in the dealers parking lot. A quick telephone call later and she's ready for delivery on Friday (3 more days of hell!). <p>: Buuuut, that was the good news. The bad news is I didn't get the Beige top that I wanted. Apperantly someone at my company (including myself!) overlooked a small sentence, in what we thought was an insignificant document, that stated the top was ordered in Black. Why the leasing company ordered in Black in the first place is a mystery but due to that document there is nothing I can due. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with it.<p>: </CENTER><br>: <B>Here is what I will be driving:</B><BR><FONT size=-1>(in Germany everything is an option)</FONT><br>: <TABLE BORDER><br>: <TR><TD><B>Number<B></TD><TD><B>Description<B></TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>-</TD><TD><B>Montreal Blue 2.8, Black top<B></TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>-</TD><TD>Beige Extended Leather incl. M steering wheel (710)</TD></TR> <br>: <TR><TD>704</TD><TD>M suspension incl. Limited slip differential</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>299</TD><TD>17" Tire package (Round spoke design)<BR>7 1/2Jx17 225/45 R 17 (front)<BR>8 1/2Jx17 245/40 R 17 (rear)</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>481</TD><TD>Sport seats</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>395</TD><TD>Roll bars</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>314</TD><TD>Heated Mirrors and Windshield-Washers</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>438</TD><TD>Wood console (Accorn)</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>305</TD><TD>Remote control for central locks</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>540</TD><TD>Cruise control</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>354</TD><TD>Green tinted windshield</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>530</TD><TD>Air conditioning</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>658</TD><TD>BMW Business CD RDS Radio</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>-</TD><TD>Windscreen (the one that goes behind you)</TD></TR><br>: <TR><TD>-</TD><TD>Chrome exhaust tips</TD></TR><br>: </TABLE><br>: </CENTER><p>: Matt F. (Z-Less till Friday!!!)<p>: PS. Pictures will come soon...<p></i>

Matt F.
03-18-1998, 10:28 AM
you know how persuasive woman can be... <p><B>"Ok Schatz, you can drive the Z3... Just promise me first that you'll speak to me again..."</B><p>Thanks<br>Matt

Matt F.
03-18-1998, 10:30 AM
<i>EOM</i>

Alan
03-18-1998, 10:36 AM
<i>: <B>"Ok Schatz, you can drive the Z3... Just promise me first that you'll speak to me again..."</B></i><p>schatz == "precious"?<p>i think schatz will be matt's name for his shiny new car. post pics matt!!!<p><br>--Alan

Matt F.
03-18-1998, 10:47 AM
and I dont think She (Chris) would understand. I am going to wait on the name for a while, you know let the car inspire me, male bonding, kind of thing.<p>About the pictures... She's still covered with that shipping goop BMW uses so there's not much <I>shiny</I> about her right now.<p>Matt F.

Rich Wheeler
03-18-1998, 10:55 AM
Anyone got a part number on the M wheel? Seems it will fit a 2.8, and the three spoke looks alot better than the one installed now.<p><br>I wonder why BMWNA doesn't allow us to order the M suspension for 1.9s and 2.8s here. Any comments?<p><br>best,<br>Rich

Grifter
03-18-1998, 04:06 PM
I've heard you <b>can</b> get the M steering wheel on the 2.8, at least in Europe you can.<p>I believe the insertion and attachment points on the M Roadster's suspension are different than those on the 1.9 and 2.8. You may be able to get the M's suspension modified to fit the 2.8 but definitely not the 1.9. The rear wheel tracks are completely different on the 1.9 from the 2.8 (the rear end of the 2.8 is more closely related to that of the M Roadster).<p>I do recall that there was an M-Technic suspension available from BMW as an option for the 1.9 but I'm not quite sure. Whether it can be installed by the dealer after the fact you'll have check.<p>Grif

Michael W
03-18-1998, 07:32 PM
<i>: I've heard you <b>can</b> get the M steering wheel on the 2.8, at least in Europe you can.<p>: I believe the insertion and attachment points on the M Roadster's suspension are different than those on the 1.9 and 2.8. You may be able to get the M's suspension modified to fit the 2.8 but definitely not the 1.9. The rear wheel tracks are completely different on the 1.9 from the 2.8 (the rear end of the 2.8 is more closely related to that of the M Roadster).<p>: I do recall that there was an M-Technic suspension available from BMW as an option for the 1.9 but I'm not quite sure. Whether it can be installed by the dealer after the fact you'll have check.<p>: Grif<p></i><br>I most likely will be ordering a new 2.8 in the coming weeks. Maybe I can ask the dealer to just throw that option code number on with the rest of them and hopefully it'll be built with it. Do you think this would work or would they have to speak to a factory manager or something... (I love the M steering wheel..and the gray/black M roadster seats...maybe I can get that as the sport seats in the 2.8 too). Maybe even Cosmos Black paint. Who knows.<p>MW<br>


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