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Harry
03-18-1998, 06:07 PM
Last week called my dealer regarding the roll hoops for my 1997 1.9. Dealer said VIN matches, no problem. Dealer said parts in, no problem (no subwoofer). Brought Z3 in with an appointment. Needed to keep it couple of days to install the hoops and track down rattles. Nice guys..gave me a 528i loaner.<p>Well..dealer calls today...uh, um, ..not all those parts came in. Ergo no roll hoops installed. Will be another 2 weeks.<p>Okay. Trying to become a flexible kinda guy. Did not get too irritated. What about the rattles?<p>According to dealer/mechanic...tracked down two rattles to (a) replacement of driver side window regulator guide rail (came loose), and (b) insulation of the A-pillar. According to mechanic he could not hear any noises coming from the dash.<p>Well...he may have fixed the rattle from the door, but rattles still coming from the dash. Sounds like things are loose in the dash and glove compartment area. More noise than a bucket of bolts...much worse than before. I will try to remove the radio and look for loose wires. Any other suggestions?<p>thanks,<p>harry

Huy
03-18-1998, 06:13 PM
I brought the car in for an after breakin oil change and the first scheduled service complaining that there is a rattle coming from the glove box. Each time it was said that they fix it. Glove box still rattle. So I think I am going to solve this myself.<p>-Huy<p>98' black/black/black 2.8l

RichC
03-18-1998, 07:31 PM
<i>Before you start, make sure you have your code for the radio. You can remove the radio with a small alan wrench (or you can buy a tool from BMW for about $14). Simply pop the little covers to the left and right of the radio and screw counter-clockwise. Do both sides. Put a small towel over the shift knob and pull out the radio (the cloth protects the knob in case you slip or need to rest the radio). On the back of the radio you'll find two cords, one for the antenna, and another, massive one for the rest. Insert a screwdriver where indicated and pull up on the plug cover. This will force the plug out and back. <p>Bring a flashlight, some really good electrical tape and duct tape, also a sheet of flexible foam (you can get it at a hardware store in the weatherproofing department. <p>Remove everything from the glove box or anything else that might rattle. Just on general principles, before you begin, tape together as many loose wires as you can. Tape down the radio wires too. Check for a small fuse-holder which should reside in a niche in back of the radio. Mine fell out and was banging on the AC duct. I put it back and taped it in place. I also securred the AC control cables. It's most helpful if you can get someone to drive while you sit, with a flashlight in the passenger seat. Have them drive and reach in with your hand, attempting to silence the wires. Look especially for wires which are near the AC ducts, they conduct sound like crazy!<p>TAPE TAPE TAPE TAPE! Whenever possible tape with foam. <p>A lot of the noise (but not all) will disappear. Check the glove box and see if it is a source of rattles itself. The next step, of taking off the glove box looks somewhat involved. If you attempt it, please take notes and publish them (I figured I could live with those noises).<p>Once you have completed the de-squeeking task, get some silicone and drip it down under where the radio rests. I used a q-tip. There are a couple of clips there that squeek when pressed down.<p>Connect up the two leads, making sure to securely seat the big plug. Press in on the plug and down on the guard. Tape the wires together, surrounding them with foam and put the radio back in. Secure it with the alan wrench. Turn it on and press in the code. <p>Hopefully the money they saved by not securing and foaming all the wires went to better engineering in the engine ;)<p>A word of advice - don't get too ****. It's a roadster, when the top is down and the music's up, you tend to not notice these things as much. Good luck!<p><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><p><p><br></i>

Harry
03-18-1998, 08:59 PM
Thanks for the response. There is a service bulletin fix for the glovebox rattle. Quite simple...rubber bumpers.<p>I am convinced much of the rattling is coming from wires or cabling in the dash. Much worse today than ever. Need to get the 5 sided allen wrench to take radio out...is this a BMW speciality tool or something I can get from hardware store.<p>Will let you know how things turn out.<p>thanks,<p>harry

RichC
03-18-1998, 09:08 PM
I used a small alan wrench from an assortment from the store. The actual tool is a 6-sided beast that only BMW sells ($14). The alan wrench has worked fine several times, but it looks like it is stripping.<p>- rich

J.Mike
03-18-1998, 10:43 PM
<i>: Thanks for the response. There is a service bulletin fix for the glovebox rattle. Quite simple...rubber bumpers.<p>: I am convinced much of the rattling is coming from wires or cabling in the dash. Much worse today than ever. Need to get the 5 sided allen wrench to take radio out...is this a BMW speciality tool or something I can get from hardware store.<p>: Will let you know how things turn out.<p>: thanks,<p>: harry<p></i>Just curious was the rattle in the door when you closed it with the window rolled up? Mine is doing this on both sides...drives me insane. Was it fixed under waranty?<br>J.Mike

Jeff B
03-19-1998, 10:21 AM
<br>I've had the car in for rattles once, and now they've returned. My dealer's attitude is that its "something that your always going to have with a roadster." I can't believe I paid close to 40 grand for a car that has more rattles at 15k than my 9 year old VW Jetta with 140K! My lease is up in a year and a half and I'm already thinking about other options. I will probably look at Mercedes or Audi for a rattle-free alternative, or I may even have to go Japanese. I hate to admit it, but they are building the highest quality automobiles at this time. <p>BMW, are you listening ?<p><br>

Harry
03-19-1998, 05:28 PM
The rattle was from the driver side door, or so the dealer/mechanic said. Was covered under warranty. Will the fix last? Who knows? Priority is to get the rattles out of the dash.<p>For the $30K I spent I expected a tight car, even for a roadster. Although roadsters do rattle, I don't equate the BMW with Triumph TR3 or MGB which were expected to rock and roll.<p>


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