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Keith
03-20-1998, 10:19 AM
<center><img src="http://members.aol.com/kcsjes/stoneguard11.jpg"></center><p>

Keith
03-20-1998, 10:22 AM
<br>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p>they are magnetic, no holes to cut and easy on/off.

Chris B
03-20-1998, 10:37 AM
I can't tell from looking at the picture that there is anything different. Can you get a close up shot?<p>Chris <p><i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

MarkK
03-20-1998, 10:46 AM
<i>: I can't tell from looking at the picture that there is anything different. Can you get a close up shot?<p>: Chris <p>: : Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

//Mster
03-20-1998, 10:54 AM
<center><img src="http://members.home.net/drywolf/keith.jpg"></center><p>

Keith
03-20-1998, 11:06 AM
<center><img src="http://members.aol.com/kcsjes/stoneguard12.jpg"></center><p>

Bryan (EOM)
03-20-1998, 11:39 AM
<i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

Keith
03-20-1998, 12:03 PM
<br>: : Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p>No I haven't, but doubt they'll go anywhere. They stick real well especially when warm. Best to warm them before installation, room temp is fine, that way they conform easily to the contour of the fender.

Chris B
03-20-1998, 12:19 PM
I had the mud flaps installed 2 weeks after I got my car and I have not noticed any damage in this area. Although I do have less than 3k miles. I wonder if it's the front wheels kicking up rocks and causing this damage. Sounds like another reason for having mud flaps.<p>Anyone with flaps notice chips in this area??<p>Chris '98,2.8l,Atlanta/Tan*2,17", Newly installed Wood Trim on the console, etc..<p><i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

DanH
03-20-1998, 12:36 PM
<i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p><br></i>

Robert Kamen
03-20-1998, 01:02 PM
<br>The clear versions are on the newer 911's. Not sure what year they started. The black versions were originally put on the early turbo's because of the extra wide rear fender flares.<p><p><br>

the Baba
03-20-1998, 05:52 PM
<i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

wizzard
03-20-1998, 08:02 PM
Not to put a damper on Keith's entrepreneurship, but are these necessary if you have flaps.<p>In other words, how many of y'all that have flaps have noticed the type of damage that this cool add-on is to protect from?<p>And Keith, how do we place an order. I plan on getting a set myself if not just for the extra protection and the looks (as long as they have the Baba stamp of approval).<p><B><I>wizzard</I></B><B><BR>4/'98 Z3 2.8l&nbsp; <FONT COLOR="#003300">Dark Green</FONT>/<FONT COLOR="#FFCC99">Beige</FONT>/Black</B><B><BR>No nothing yet...Car is <BLINK>1</BLINK> months away from being delivered <FONT COLOR="#3333FF">:^(</FONT></B><p><P><IMG SRC="http://home.san.rr.com/wizzard/Z3Plate2.GIF" NOSAVE><p><p><i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

Keith
03-20-1998, 08:02 PM
<p>: I had the mud flaps installed 2 weeks after I got my car and I have not noticed any damage in this area. Although I do have less than 3k miles. I wonder if it's the front wheels kicking up rocks and causing this damage. Sounds like another reason for having mud flaps.<p>: Anyone with flaps notice chips in this area??<p>: Chris '98,2.8l,Atlanta/Tan*2,17", Newly installed Wood Trim on the console, etc..<p>: : Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p><br>

Keith
03-20-1998, 08:08 PM
If interested for protection or looks e-mail me and I'll give address, will be making up some sets with the material I have left this weekend and mailing out Monday.<p><br>: Not to put a damper on Keith's entrepreneurship, but are these necessary if you have flaps.<p>: In other words, how many of y'all that have flaps have noticed the type of damage that this cool add-on is to protect from?<p>: And Keith, how do we place an order. I plan on getting a set myself if not just for the extra protection and the looks (as long as they have the Baba stamp of approval).<p>: <B><I>wizzard</I></B><B><BR>4/'98 Z3 2.8l* <FONT COLOR="#003300">Dark Green</FONT>/<FONT COLOR="#FFCC99">Beige</FONT>/Black</B><B><BR>No nothing yet...Car is <BLINK>1</BLINK> months away from being delivered <FONT COLOR="#3333FF">:^(</FONT></B><p>: <P><IMG SRC="http://home.san.rr.com/wizzard/Z3Plate2.GIF" NOSAVE><p><br>: : Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p>

wizzard
03-20-1998, 08:15 PM
Just thought I'd mention it.<p>You may want to look into what regulations (if any) exists for shipping magnets.<p>It sounds silly, but there may be regulations as to the necessity to clearly mark the pakaging as containing magnets so that the mail service can keep it separated from packages containing magnetically sensitive materials or media.<p><B><I>wizzard</I></B><B><BR>4/'98 Z3 2.8l&nbsp; <FONT COLOR="#003300">Dark Green</FONT>/<FONT COLOR="#FFCC99">Beige</FONT>/Black</B><B><BR>No nothing yet...Car is <BLINK>1</BLINK> months away from being delivered <FONT COLOR="#3333FF">:^(</FONT></B><p><P><IMG SRC="http://home.san.rr.com/wizzard/Z3Plate2.GIF" NOSAVE><p><p><i>: Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p></i>

Keith
03-20-1998, 08:34 PM
Magnetic surface is pretty weak in any one place, it is the strength of the whole surface combined that holds it in place. <br> Doesn't sound silly at all, thanks for the heads up.<p><br>: Just thought I'd mention it.<p>: You may want to look into what regulations (if any) exists for shipping magnets.<p>: It sounds silly, but there may be regulations as to the necessity to clearly mark the pakaging as containing magnets so that the mail service can keep it separated from packages containing magnetically sensitive materials or media.<p>: <B><I>wizzard</I></B><B><BR>4/'98 Z3 2.8l* <FONT COLOR="#003300">Dark Green</FONT>/<FONT COLOR="#FFCC99">Beige</FONT>/Black</B><B><BR>No nothing yet...Car is <BLINK>1</BLINK> months away from being delivered <FONT COLOR="#3333FF">:^(</FONT></B><p>: <P><IMG SRC="http://home.san.rr.com/wizzard/Z3Plate2.GIF" NOSAVE><p><br>: : Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p>

Espen
03-21-1998, 08:53 PM
I think all the models newer than -89 have them. Both the 964 (plastic bumpers, old body) 89-93 and the 993 - 93-97 (98 in the US).

Greg Hudson (Melbourne Australia)
03-22-1998, 07:22 PM
<center><img src="http://www.hudsoft.com/images/welcome-bmw.jpg"></center><p>

Keith
03-22-1998, 08:09 PM
You are right better to be in the know than sorry later. Here are the instructions for use and should have accompanied your sign from the MFG. Would have helped your 318.<p>WARNING!<p> Trapped moisture, dirt, or chemicals may harm your finish. To protect your car's finish, it is recommended you remove daily and both the magnetic vinyl and vehicle be cleaned and dried. Pay close attention, especially for the first 90 days of use, for any changes in your vehicle finish. A generous waxing of the surface where the magnetic vinyl will be placed will help prevent damage. <p>A copy of this will accompany all stone-guards<br>along with some other suggestions for use. I plan to use them consistent with the MFG recommendations. My initial effort was to prevent my Z3's rear fenders from being sand blasted. I plan on using them when the conditions would expose my car to this danger. <p>I made an offer to others on the board to help them if they had the same problem and wanted protection. Making $ was, and is, not the intent. I believe if used properly there will be no problem. Sure beats have the fenders nicked up or worse provided you use them properly.<p><br>Keith<br>: <br>: : Anyone else interested in a pair shipped to you for $20?<p>: Keith, as much as I hate raining on your parade and possibly affecting your profit, I feel I must warn you (and everone else) about what happened to me a few years ago when I had some of these 'magnets' on my white 318i...<p>: I had 2 magnetic signs made up about 2'x1' in size, red lettering on a white background featuring my company name (Hudson Software) to place on each front door. Duly placed them on after carefully ensuring there was no dust on the car or the signs (didn't want any scratches.) I left them there for about 3 or 4 weeks, in which time the car was washed several times... TO MY HORROR when I removed them to wash underneath the signs I found that moisture had seeped under the sign, and had leeched RUST out of the magnets, and I had THOUSANDS OF RUST SPOTS OVER EACH DOOR.<p>: I had to have both doors professionally cut & polished to remove all the rust stains (I tried by hand, but the stains were too deep).<p>: I now have a new set of signs for my Red Zed 3, however the only time I use them is when the car is in a concourse or car show. I use them as door protectors to stop the scratches from peoples belt buckles & zippers when they lean into the car for a better look. I've had them so well color matched you can't even tell they are magnetic, unless you look REALLY close... See pic below.<p>: If you want to ensure the same thing doesn't happen to you, make sure your car, and the stone-guards are PERFECTLY DRY before reapplying them.<p>: Sorry, but I feel it's better to tell you now, than wait until you (or someone else) post a message complaining about the problem appearing later.<p>: Regards, Greg.<p><br>


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