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Phil Ehlen
03-21-1998, 11:44 AM
I received this Hamann (a tuner) brochure a few days ago. I thought everyone might like a peek at what their doing with the Z3...<p><UL><br><LI><A HREF="http://home.att.net/~pae.rme">Hamann's Z3 Pictures</A><br></UL><p>Comments?<p>--Phil

Alan
03-21-1998, 12:35 PM
<i>: I received this Hamann (a tuner) brochure a few days ago. I thought everyone might like a peek at what their doing with the Z3...</i><p>Some cool stuff Phil! Did Hamann send you any pricing information? The steering wheel is great--much better than the big boat of a wheel on U.S. Z3s.<p><br>--Alan

Keith W.
03-21-1998, 12:35 PM
<i>: I received this Hamann (a tuner) brochure a few days ago. I thought everyone might like a peek at what their doing with the Z3...<p>: <UL><br>: <LI><A HREF="http://home.att.net/~pae.rme">Hamann's Z3 Pictures</A><br>: </UL><p>: Comments?<p>: --Phil<p></i><p>Their accessories are indeed awesome. I have been talking to them about a couple of items. <br>Check out these two links. <br>http://www.hamann-usa.com/

Phil Ehlen
03-21-1998, 12:39 PM
They have some pricing in at their US <A HREF="http://www.hamann-usa.com/">web site</A>.

Bruce
03-21-1998, 12:42 PM
2 comments<p>1) the roolhoops are way to short<br>2) wonder if you can somehow hook up the headlight washers that was on the bumper pic? (i know you have to add the pumps, the lines and a control...but is it possible???)...i really wish BMW would offer that option here<p>Bruce

Phil Ehlen
03-21-1998, 01:03 PM
I agree, the roll hoops are too short. They might look OK, but are certainly not functional.<p>As far as the front bumber goes, I'm not as interested in the washers, as I am in the air intakes!<p>Phil

RichC
03-21-1998, 02:50 PM
<A HREF=" http://home.att.net/~pae.rme/images/pics/hammanrollhoops.jpg "><IMG SRC="http://home.att.net/~pae.rme/images/pics/hammanrollhoops.jpg " ALT="Chrome Hoops"> </A><p>Hard to tell from this pic just how they attach, but the text says they are not for rollover protection. Lord knows how they would play with the HK and other amps in the back. <p>Does anyone know if the BMW roll hoops actualy qualify as rollover protection or are also considered "cosmetic"?<p>Local dealer in Boston is at 1079 COmm Ave. 787-8800 - I'm going down to talk to them on monday.<p><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P>

RichC
03-21-1998, 02:57 PM
</i>1) the roolhoops are way to short <i>(It may just be the angle, I'll let you know, but it <b>does</b> say it is asthetic (I would read that "cosmetic")</i><p>2) wonder if you can somehow hook up the headlight washers that was on the bumper pic? </i> I actually have a whole kit for headlamp washing - it's from Cosmic Car Accessories, LTD, Sadler Road, Brownhills, Walsall, WS8 6NA England. Here's an old tel # - +44 543 377001 (It's undoubtedly changed since I bought the kit which has been sitting in my basement for close to 10 years now (unopened!)<p>I'd be concerned about spraying wiper fluid on the plastic light covers.<p><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P>

Bruce
03-21-1998, 03:05 PM
<i>: It may just be the angle, I'll let you know, but it <b>does</b> say it is asthetic (I would read that "cosmetic")</i><p>from the 2 pics, they look shorter than the seat backs<p><i>: I'd be concerned about spraying wiper fluid on the plastic light covers.</i><p>why?

RichC
03-21-1998, 03:33 PM
Washer fluid is pretty much like windex - lots of ammonia and other chemicals great for cutting dirt. The front covers are plastic which are prone to fogging if you use that type of stuff on 'em. That's why you always use Meguires 10 & 18 for the rear window - plastic is very fragile in comparison to glass and requires special handling. You should be using the same on the front light covers. Now -- you <b>could</b> create another reservoir with special fluid for the lights and fill it with something different, but it seems like overkill. Most of my friends in the UK and Germany agree that, unless you have <i>wipers</i> on your lights, splashing cleaning fluid on them does not do a whole lot of good.<p><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P>

Michael W
03-21-1998, 08:06 PM
<i>: <A HREF=" http://home.att.net/~pae.rme/images/pics/hammanrollhoops.jpg "><IMG SRC="http://home.att.net/~pae.rme/images/pics/hammanrollhoops.jpg " ALT="Chrome Hoops"> </A><p>: Hard to tell from this pic just how they attach, but the text says they are not for rollover protection. Lord knows how they would play with the HK and other amps in the back. <p>: Does anyone know if the BMW roll hoops actualy qualify as rollover protection or are also considered "cosmetic"?<p>: Local dealer in Boston is at 1079 COmm Ave. 787-8800 - I'm going down to talk to them on monday.<p>: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><p></i><br>BMW does not advertise the hoops as "Rollbars", but rather "Rollover Protection System"--I think its official name easily states its purpose.<br>

Greg in Sydney
03-22-1998, 12:24 AM
Now I've seen everything. <p>Think I'd rather keep my head "aesthetic" than risk rolling over with cosmetic roll hoops.<p>Greg

Bob
03-22-1998, 01:10 AM
That steering wheel and yellow gauges would look bitchin' on Inga..<p> Bob 98 Dakar Yellow<p><i>: I received this Hamann (a tuner) brochure a few days ago. I thought everyone might like a peek at what their doing with the Z3...<p>: <UL><br>: <LI><A HREF="http://home.att.net/~pae.rme">Hamann's Z3 Pictures</A><br>: </UL><p>: Comments?<p>: --Phil<p></i>

Espen
03-22-1998, 02:06 PM
They're an OZ design that's been out since the late eighties, and age hasn't worked in their favour. Would definitely gotten some Racing Dynamics or Hartges instead.<p>Somehow the rear light treatment made it (heresy!) look like a Miata... Anybody else get the same associations?

RichC
03-22-1998, 02:08 PM
<i>: Now I've seen everything. <p>: Think I'd rather keep my head "aesthetic" than risk rolling over with cosmetic roll hoops.<p>: Greg<p></i><p>Actually, the BMW's are the first "hoop" treatment I've seen which claim to be functional. If you look at the Miata aftermarket, you can find lots of "style bars" which are, essentially, cosmetic. These include the "roll bar" and "roll hoop" styles. I suspect the BMW hoops are "functional" becasue they attach to the body at reinforced points, but don't offer the type of protection Hard-Dog or HMS roll-bar would. They just don't have the requisite number of attachment points. <p>That's why I was wondering if anyone had any data on what they are meant to withstand. I.e. if you rolled the car over, would the bars support the weight? I've seen eamples of rolled over- miata's where the windscreen was still intact and holding up the car. I wonder if the Z3 can do the same? I would love to find some "funtional" chrome roll hoops, but these don't seem to be it. However, I do plan a trip to the dealer (it's on my way to work).<p>- rich<p><A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif"><IMG SRC="http://members.tripod.com/~chic_digger/richcmanx.gif" ALT="Black Manx" BORDER=0 HEIGHT=150 WIDTH=150 ALIGN=LEFT> </A></FONT><BR CLEAR=ALL><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P><BR><P>

Brian
03-23-1998, 02:21 AM
<br>First of all they are not designed by OZ they are made by them, the desing is new for this year and it belongs to HAMANN . <br>I am refering to my wheels which are the PG ones. They truel;y look kick *** and the cool thing about them is when I pull at a red light people just trip over them and stare untill the guy behind them honks the horn letting them know the light is green. EVERYBODY has either Racyng Dynamics or Ac schnitzer or same old wheels on their BMW's. Time for something different, but I guess people don't want to pay 700.00 per wheel<br>


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