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01-07-2002, 12:51 PM
I bought both and took advantage of the trial and return policies thanks to the manufacturers.

I ran both together and made my decision based on my own drive to work and run in with stationary speed monitoring signs the local PD uses within the city.

I chose the 8500..when tested it produced less false alarms and offered increased warning distances on Ka band.

Debating until you are blue in the face is a waste of time IMO...simply buy both...try them out and run your own test, only then can you personally be 100% sure which unit is better for you.

C&D, etc. should only be used as a guide and not a decision maker.


01-07-2002, 01:02 PM
we did own an escort 7500, a bel 950, a bel980.

now we own 2 bel980s and a v1.

strikingly, i find the bel's more sensitive to K and Ka band. i also
find the V1 directional arrows excruciatingly not helpful in city
backgrounds where the signal to noise ratio is high. what help
do they do when all three directions are lit up? big help. and it's
not easy, concentrating on driving, to take time to look at the V1
to see which stupid LED slot is lit up to tell me which band i'm
being hit with. as the feb. 2002 C&D will demonstrate: the V1 in
advanced logic mode (city mode) also attenuates greatly the K
and Ka band, we're left with ridiculous amounts of
electronic noise detection. not helpful in st.louis.

i like the bel's because in city driving on familiar terrain, they do
what i need: very explicit, simple ID of the radar band and detect
the emissions with adequate kinetics.

NOW: in unfamiliar terrain in long highway driving, this is where
the V1 directionals (low noise) help out a lot.

these issues are never addressed in any of hte reviews. i
dislike intensely the LED setup the V1 has. i would prefer a dot
matrix readout as in the escort 8500/escort 7500/bel9xx units.

Rick Kim official member of the CRS club
01-07-2002, 01:14 PM
I havent' had a speeding ticket in over 5 years. I do speed and frequently. about 10-15 over limit on the freeway only.

At least for my area I don't see the advantage of having a detector. My friend bought one and he hardly ever uses it after 6 months.

But your milage may vary.

Rick Kim member of CRS club
'00 Dakar Duck CRS edition?

01-07-2002, 01:36 PM
mine is close to 10% off.

Mark B
01-07-2002, 01:48 PM
I haven't gotten a ticket in 4 years and it seems like most of the troopers I ran across were using laser anyway. My radar detector became a "if you had been speeding you would now have a ticket" indicator.

Plus it's a hassle to drag around and take in and out of the car and it looks ungainly with the power cord.

I might use it on a long trip, I guess, but I wouldn't buy another one.

Mark B
(it's an 8500, btw)

01-07-2002, 02:40 PM
in these days of instant-on, laser and pacing. 3/4 of the time i spot them before the radar/laser is active. i've never gotten a ticket when paying attention. when attention lapses... then i pay the price, detector or not. in fact i haven't seen an old-fashioned stationary radar trap in a couple of years now. the west coast is generally pretty liberal anyway, but when they want to get you they can be sneaky. i only use my detector on longer trips, which i don't do very often. although if i lived in a place like ohio that would be different! recently visited family in cleveland and the revenue machine is in full swing there, indiscriminantly harvesting the roads of every kind. ugh. (no i didn't get caught, i just drove slow - not worth it).

Rick Kim official member of the CRS club
01-07-2002, 02:46 PM

01-07-2002, 03:33 PM

01-07-2002, 03:35 PM
Middle of the night. 8500 was no help in this case, nor would a V1 be.

01-07-2002, 04:33 PM
use laser...and I have been close to and targeted myself on two occasions on Sepulveda and the detector does not do a damn thing.

01-07-2002, 06:18 PM
Look on the V1 comparison page, where Mike Valentine instructs how best to compare radar detectors. They interfere with each other. What mode were you using when testing the V1 and concluded it had more false alarms?

01-07-2002, 07:06 PM why i think it reports many more false alarms.

but if you looked at that car and driver comparison, the scary
thing is, switching the v1 to "city" mode killed its K and Ka

so, the whole time i was running advanced logic mode i was
also hurting sensitivity. now i'm back to high false/high
sensitivity mode.

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