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Ed - 02 530i 88 528e
05-22-2002, 11:58 PM
My '02 530i, Titanium Grey is almost 2 weeks old. Help me out, what's the difference between Zymol, Zaino, Klasse. What makes one product better than the other? I know one of the earlier posts stated, I will get 10 different answers from 10 different people... let's hear it

05-23-2002, 01:05 AM

Zymol is a carnauba wax. Klasse is an Acrylic One-Step.

Lots of people prefer the carnauba wax. It is easy to use and lasts about 3 months. Zaino takes many steps which requires lots of time. Klasse is an all in one product which may save time, but combines lots of products into the one main product. When lots of products are combined, their individual strengths are diminished.

I hope this helps. Please contact me via email if you have any further questions.


05-23-2002, 10:55 AM
<br>Ed 'scuba'

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05-23-2002, 12:19 PM
1. Are acrylics and polymers the same thing? If not, what's the difference?

2. Can an acrylic or polymer be applied over carnauba? vice versa? What problems if any?

3. I know that a high alkaline dish soap will strip carnauba, but how do you strip off acrylic or polymer?

05-23-2002, 12:34 PM

06-02-2002, 09:45 PM

06-02-2002, 10:31 PM
Hi Nick!

Ok, I do not know if acrylics and polymers are the same. They are relatively new to the market, say about 10 years or so.

I would not recommend applying an acrylic or polymer over a carnauba or vice versa. Stick with one or the other. Products like Zaino work best when you apply coat after coat. Wax is not like this. You can use P21S Carnauba Paste Wax and get excellent results without applying coats and coats. After a few months, you remove old wax and let your car's paint breathe. Then you apply another coat of wax. Thus, starting the wax process all over again.

Yes, you can use dish soap and/or P21S Total Auto Wash for removing acrylic.

I hope these answers help. Please feel free to email me or call 1-800-964-8711


Nick T.
06-02-2002, 11:42 PM

Eman 94 740i
06-04-2002, 12:35 PM
Essentially, products like Zymol, P21s and Mirage are pure carnuba base with about 10%-20% concentration. Carnauba is a Brazilian plant by origin which secrets a hard, high melting natural wax from its leaves as a defense mechanism against hot winds and droughts. In its pure concentration form it's hard to remove that is why you will only see 30% concentration (Zymol Concours) of carnauba.

On the other hand, acrylics and polymers are one in the same. They are man made and can be mixed with other chemicals to have a bonding effect similar to carnauba based waxes. The differences is that they tend to last longer because of their design (same principle as synthetic oil vs natural oil). The down side to using synthetic is that you can have a dull finish after applying one on top of the other.

I use P21s and Mirage twice a week on my 94 740i and it looks great!
Then in between waxes I use Meguire's Quick Detail.

06-06-2002, 04:11 PM
An acrylic is just a type of polymer. All acrylics are polymers, but not all polymers are acrylics.

Melissa, just out of curiousity, have you tried Zaino?

Also, if you have a single stage paint, I might agree with the statement that your paint needs to "breathe", but modern clearcoats are fully cured right out of the factory and do not need to breathe.....or be fed with polishing oils for that matter.

06-07-2002, 01:03 AM

No, I have not personally tried Zaino. I have a lot of different opinions on Zaino from numerous customers. Some love it. Some hate it. As with waxes, it is a personal preference as to which brand you like.


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