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monti
07-05-2001, 05:30 PM
Anyone know of a dealership with a short waiting list? This is probably a dumb question but I have been calling around the country and I find it hard to beleive that the waiting time is 2 to 3 years everywhere.

Are there any big dealers that actually have these cars in stock?

maazing
07-05-2001, 05:35 PM
No way. Not yet.

Estimates amongst the regular board members seems to suggest that it could take a full year before the craziness stops.

If you want, you can get a car. Easy. Pay a bit of a premium and no problem, you could have one tomorrow.

Check out jedinite's site. He's got one for sale practically at msrp if it hasn't sold already.

RAW
07-05-2001, 05:41 PM
Disclaimer:
I will not tell you how I know this.

Spartanburg Plant has been calling dealers and giving them unscheduled (extra) allocations. Since they are unscheduled, no one on the lists have paid a deposit for these extra cars. If you get lucky and call at the right moment, one of these cars could be yours.

StoneWalk
07-05-2001, 05:41 PM
Did you see the June US production numbers? BMW managed to ship slightly more than 200 M3 coupes for the entire month. That's about 0.7 M3's per dealer, and a yearly rate of ~2500.

At that rate, we will never clear up the waiting lists. New buyers will show up faster than BMW fills orders, and the existing wiat list would be measured at a couple years in most places.

BUT, the word is that BMW is going to get it's act together (after almost 12 months of trying), and start producing the cars in volume - on the order of three times current levels. If and when this happens, the lists would start clearing up, and if BMW does it as planned in the fall of 2001, then I imagine that about a year from now the M3 lists will look like the M5 lists do today - you can get an M5 at about list price by calling around, or you can order one at list with a couple of months wait.

Hint if you want one quickly - the Cabrio lists are often shorter than the Coupe, and you can get the same engine shoehorned into a Z3 Mcoupe with almost no wait...

$0.02

StoneWalk
07-05-2001, 05:43 PM
How would the US factory that makes Z3's and X5's suddenly be issuing M3 allocations?

I would expect increased production news to come from BMWNA on the east coast...

Evan...
07-05-2001, 07:09 PM

lk
07-05-2001, 09:32 PM

StoneWalk
07-06-2001, 12:57 AM
Certainly, no one will be in line for 2 years and still get a 2001 model - it'll be 2003 and they'll get a 2003 vehicle if that's when their name comes up.

We do believe that the factory will get cranking and that lists will move more quickly in the not too distant future.

But right now, BMW is shipping, read my lips, 200 to 300 cars per month. That's an average of less than one per dealer. At this rate, the lists really would extend out for several years. Yes there's every reason to believe that will change. But so far, there is no evidence of that change, and people have been predicting production ramp-up every month since March.

My personal opinion is that there's about a year backlog in the system.

Jon
07-06-2001, 10:13 AM
...special NASCAR-Edition M3s so that BMW can still be on Speedvision after Fox takes over.

<a href="http://home.austin.rr.com/superj/pics/m3_bird.jpg"><img src="http://home.austin.rr.com/superj/pics/tn_m3_bird.jpg"></a>

Just kidding.

-Jon

Paul
07-06-2001, 10:51 AM
It's a 12 month wait up here in ontario, canada.

Eric
07-06-2001, 11:29 AM
I'm on a 12-month waiting list in Toronto, Canada.

Paul E
07-06-2001, 05:24 PM
Sheez....This waiting stuff is getting ridiculous....Makes me glad I decided last year not to deal with all the nonsense, and Supercharge my E36. More power, thrills, chills, and, no wait!! Some of you may want to consider the options....


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