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John
07-07-2001, 03:00 PM
cheap quality leather in the M3? Having seen 2 pictures of wrinkled leather seats already, I am dissappointed in what $1500 buys from BMW. The same problem exists my E36 M3. I was hoping they would upgrade the leather quality in this iteration but guess I was wrong. You guys should really complain to BMW about this. My friend has a CLK430 with 20,000 miles on it and the driver seat looks brand new. My parent's LS400 has 60,000 miles on it and although the leather seats look used, they are not wrinkled.

Nick
07-07-2001, 03:28 PM
No stains, no wrinkles or problems. Perhaps the quality is different?

Craig
07-07-2001, 03:31 PM
the leather is NOT cheap! It's a very high quality Nappa Leather and the seats are the most comfortable seats I've ever had in a car, or anywhere else, not to mention the fact that the Nappa grips as well as any cloth seat. The e36 leather seats feel slippery and loose in comparison. Those small "wrinkles" are immaterial, in my opinion.

Craig
'97 ///M3 TV/Mulb. (Lux. Pkg. with Lux Seats)
'01 ///M3 IR/Bl.

John
07-07-2001, 03:34 PM
My co-worker has a 528 with roughly 20K miles on it and I noticed the seats looked fine as well. As a previous poster stated, the X5 also has wrinkle resistant leather. Very disappointing to see that.

Andreas
07-07-2001, 05:49 PM
I used to own an M Roadster. I put 33000 miles on it and the leather looked fine when I sold the car. So, it's no big deal that the seats of a 528 look fine after only 20k miles.

M3 and M5 have exactly the same quality of leather (nappa).

A.

rca
07-07-2001, 05:49 PM
as the main idea is to have an m3 and drive. High quality leather is more a concern to me in my office and home furniture.

Shroomin
07-07-2001, 05:53 PM
I find the M3 leather to be HORRIBLE in terms of quality. It does
grip well, and is soft nappa leather, but it wrinkles and looks
REALLY bad after some time. The X5 we have has GREAT
leather, and the M5 leather is NOTHING like the M3. Atleast the
2000 M5 leather isn't.

Mercedes leather is GREAT on the other hand

John
07-07-2001, 06:05 PM
http://forums.roadfly.com/bmw/e46m3/forum.php?postid=99154&page=1
http://forums.roadfly.com/bmw/e46m3/forum.php?postid=99043&page=1

Andreas
07-07-2001, 06:23 PM
so what... I've also seen seats like this in an M5.

Ok - obviously all BMW's have leather of poor quality *LOL*. Gawd, I will immediately sell my M3 ;-)

Next... ?

John
07-07-2001, 06:38 PM
very typical of an owner who obviously stretched to own this car. you obviously cannot stand to hear any criticisms of obvious defects. keep making excuses for yourself buddy. keep telling yourself that seats that wrinkle after 3000 miles are normal. as long as chumps like you keep on smiling and laughing, BMW will just keep dumping poor/defective parts into their cars and charge a leg for them. no wonder they have one of the highest profit margins of all auto manufacturers.

t1328
07-07-2001, 07:51 PM
I've owned several cars with a leather interior, and this is by far the nicest and best quality leather I have had. It is soft, and luxurious nappa leather. I'm not trying to flame you here or anything, my wife's 323ci has leather and I am not overly impressed with that leather, but my M3's seems much nicer. Maybe its just me though...

Cheers
T1328

Scott W
07-07-2001, 08:32 PM

Randy G
07-07-2001, 10:26 PM
Some people are not that concerned with the seats. Why is that so hard to grasp? I don't think Andreas has any problem affording the car.

John
07-07-2001, 11:58 PM
and some people are concerned. but the fact remains that M3 seats look 10x their actual age and the pictures show that. why is that so hard to admit?

Le Mans
07-08-2001, 12:14 AM
this. The trick is to actuall minimise conditioning the leather. I hate the leather on BMW, they just wrinkle way too fast. I also foung that the set padding has a lot to do with it.

2001 M5 Lemans blue

Andreas
07-08-2001, 05:01 AM

Necro
07-08-2001, 05:45 AM
The picture on
http://forums.roadfly.com/bmw/e46m3/forum.php?postid=99043&page=1
is a bad comparison. Look at the picture-quality by the whole foto.

Necro
07-08-2001, 05:59 AM
in my Ferrari, the leather is much solid, but also therefore roughly to sit. I think BMW would offer soft and confortable seats. The "bumps" are therefore normal and I can also even see them in the Ferrari.

Bob
07-08-2001, 10:36 AM
These covers keep you warm in the winter and are much more comfortable with shorts on in the summer. Anyways, they work well in North Carolina. Apply a liberal amount of conditioner on the leather before installing the covers. I have done this on four BMWs and two MBs. When you go to sell the vehicle and remove the covers the seats look like new. The increased resale will easily makeup for the expense of the covers ($400.00 for good quality).

Cheers


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