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//M3hopefull
08-09-2001, 09:42 PM

Lexx
08-09-2001, 09:48 PM

Marc W.
08-09-2001, 09:49 PM

MJ
08-09-2001, 09:54 PM
I think it reffers to SSG (sequential sport gearbox) that 3-series will get, not M3.
If they did that then they would loose about 95% of people that wanted one, witch comes down to loosing money by BMW.
It would be stupid but on the other hand you never know what BMWNA and Tom S. will come up with...

BTW I met Tom at Chicago auto show, nice guy, but I`m very disapointed with him and BMWNA as far as getting what we want on our M cars:(
`02 IR/IR SMG II-hopefuly not detuned:)

Ready to order and stallin' b/c of detuned SMG!!!
08-09-2001, 10:00 PM
fine. but they better keep S6 and launch control. they can take out
A1-A4 too. and S1-S4.

what is MPower when you cant harness it?

i just hope it's just a big rumor.

eGumby
08-09-2001, 10:09 PM
Same engine, but different brakes, wheels - now tranny? I'll wait to see if this rumor becomes truth. If it's the same as Euro SMGII I'm getting it, but if it's not exactly the same ... all the reviews mean absolutely nothing - totally different ball game. Stick for sure then. I'm just tired of grabbing my ankles all the time here in the US.

I'm still betting on the same SMGII as Europe though. All the quotes and articles I've read never even hinted or had a vagueness that would suggest a difference. It also might be more trouble than it's worth to "detune" SMGII, but then again why didn't it come out with the beginning of the MY.

Hoping the rumors aren't true!!!

dj
08-09-2001, 10:12 PM

dj
08-09-2001, 10:15 PM
control...don't you?

That's not the main point of SMG....

I mean, it would be nice to have, but that's not why people will be ordering it.

eGumby
08-09-2001, 10:40 PM

Ferrari Lover
08-09-2001, 11:25 PM

Paul
08-09-2001, 11:59 PM
Read link.

MJ
08-10-2001, 12:27 AM
Sequential Sports Gearbox (SSG):

For marketing reasons, BMW apparently has dropped the term "manual" from what we knew as the Sequential Manual Gearbox (SMG) product in favor of the term Sequential Sports Gearbox (SSG).

SSG is a clutch-less manual 5-speed transmission that is operated by two paddles behind the steering wheel or via the gearshift lever.

SSG will be available as optional equipment for the 325i and 330i Sedan and Coupe models. SSG should be available by the end of the year.
Link: http://www.bmwworld.com/models/years/2002/index.htm
SMG = sequential M gearbox where "M" stands for motorsports and is used only on M3 cars
SSG = will only be available on 325i and 330i and it only comes with 5-speed and don`t get all gadgets like lunch control and some other stuff

MJ
08-10-2001, 12:29 AM

Brad Otoupalik (evosport)
08-10-2001, 01:26 AM

Brad Otoupalik (evosport)
08-10-2001, 01:27 AM

Brad Otoupalik (evosport)
08-10-2001, 01:28 AM
weekend. This is from on of the principle peopel involved in the making of BMWFilms.com as well as someone close to PTG and NA. He was invited to drive the us and euro pre-production SMG cars at Sears Point after the ALMS race.

Could change, but as of now, differnt SMG's for US and ROW!

b.

functional description CJ
08-10-2001, 06:00 AM

RayNJ
08-10-2001, 07:21 AM
Given that BMW initially touted the M3 as being a "world car" now, and is contiuing to break that marketing commitment, I will probably cancel my "commitment" with the dealer if SMG is not the same; it's the last straw.

bill
08-10-2001, 08:27 AM
Where did you guys get this info? I ordered the 6 speed (build wk
36 or 37 depending on who I talk to), but would have tried to SMG
to play with it at the track, knowing my wonderful E30 M3 is there
if the new one isnít as much fun. I thought the launch control
might interesting at an autox (but the car's weight would not be
so great there) - but there is no way in hell I'd order it if they have
emasculated they system.


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