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04-19-2002, 11:09 PM
So after 6 months of waiting, my car showed up today, a week earlier than expected. They wanted $3k over, I offered them MSRP. They balked. I walked.

They told me to go home, think about it, and call them Saturday morning. I told them I would get back to them on Monday. They said the car will be gone by Sunday and they can't hold the car for me. I said "Don't hold the car for me, if someone else wants it, sell it for whatever you can get and more power to you. I fully intend to purchase the car at MSRP. No more." I then said "If the car is still here on Monday and you want to sell it for MSRP, give me a call. I'll expect a new car or my deposit back on Tuesday."

I guess I shouldn't have expected any different here in the Bay Area. I'm just asking for a reasonable price. They kept quoting me how much OTHER people paid, like $5k over, $7k over. That's fine, but those OTHER people aren't going to make MY payments. It's actually pretty simple: the dealer can ask for what they want and I can ask for what I want. We have a deal when we meet up somewhere, either on their end, on mine, or in the middle. That's all that counts, no one else is involved, and I'm not going to be compared with some bozo who paid $10k over.


P.S. The car is a Steel Gray/Gray coupe, 6sp, nappa, xenons, PDC, Harmon Kardon, Cold Weather, navigation, power seat package, rear spoiler delete. No moonroof.

04-19-2002, 11:24 PM
that people are still paying over sticker. Those days are over.

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04-20-2002, 01:10 AM
I guess it just wasn't meant to be.


04-20-2002, 01:16 AM
It was left open. I think the dealer wanted the freedom to price based on current market conditions, and maybe he thought I would go higher when the car was actually in front of me. I told him that didn't want to pay more than MSRP. 6 months later I'm still saying the same thing.


04-20-2002, 01:51 AM

04-20-2002, 03:00 AM
Which dealer is it in the Bay Area? I'm looking for one at the end of the year. But I want to stay away from bad dealers in the Bay Area. Hang in there and keep looking.

04-20-2002, 05:20 AM

04-20-2002, 08:20 AM
I fyou need help, let me know. I have a good sales guy over at classic. And they only sell at msrp if you are on the list. I know the last 3 M's that were not spoken for was sold also at MSRP.

04-20-2002, 09:41 AM

StL Don
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04-20-2002, 11:17 AM
e dealers. Its just them trying to get you to make an emotional decision. DO NOT DO IT!


04-20-2002, 11:53 AM

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04-20-2002, 12:55 PM

There is a fully loaded silver M3 smg, coupe at msrp, customer cancelled in Colorado.

Hang in there, no more than msrp, tell them to bite you.

04-20-2002, 01:16 PM
They just didn't want to write the order at MSRP. Only God knows why.


04-20-2002, 01:23 PM
Do you sign the paper when you place the order?? The contract should be binded before they build your car.

04-20-2002, 01:38 PM

04-20-2002, 02:02 PM
Never order a car without agreeing to the terms at time of deposit. They burned you and you let them do it.

04-20-2002, 02:34 PM
...might as well warn others so they don't make the mistake of ordering from them in the future. We need to do all we can to give business to dealerships who don't try to gouge customers.


04-20-2002, 02:35 PM
The paper that I signed had a disclaimer on the bottom that read the following:

"This deposit is fully refunbdable and this order can be cancelled by either party at any time."

In other words, simply signing an order sheet commits no one to anything. The dealer can sell the car to someone else out from under me, and I can back out of the deal at any time.

The dealer can't make you sign an actual sales contract for something that doesn't even exist yet. A contract like that is not enforceable.


04-20-2002, 02:38 PM
They can sell the car for whatever they want, and I can decide to purchase it or not. It's just a matter of choice. I didn't get "burned." I chose not to buy the car.

They're being stupid by not selling me the car at MSRP because now they have to d|ck around and sell it to someone else. If they can do so as quickly as they say they can, more power to them, but they didn't have to waste the effort and keep the car on the lot longer. I would have taken the car off their hands in no time flat and they would have made their minimum $4600 between invoice and retail, and the salesguy woudl have made at least $900.


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