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09-30-2002, 01:46 PM
I know in the next 8-24 months I'll be wanting to buy my EXOTIC CAR of MY LIFE... and I've narrowed it down to something in the 110-130K ranges... I am think Z8 because.. well stay in the family... and also because it is much more rare... but then 0-60 in 4.0 Seconds is very tempting with the Porsche...decisions.. decisions...<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 01:52 PM
Z8 is nice, but everytime I see one, I think, "Man, that guy should have bought a Twin turbo or a ferrari." I just don't think it's worth it, for the same reason the CLK 55 is a nice car but "not worth it."


One man's opinion.

09-30-2002, 01:54 PM
the "classic" look of the Z8, (esp of the steering wheel). No offense but I think Z8 suits older ppl more IMHO. Plus you can't beat AWD, twin turbos. ;-)

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09-30-2002, 02:00 PM
...since they'll be phasing out production in the next few months (according to what I've read). Because of its rarity alone, a Z8 might make a better investment choice: Driven gingerly and maintained well, it will likely hold its value very well over time, and probably appreciate eventually.

But regardless of those considerations, I think I'd lean towards the Z8. That mighty V8 roar is intoxicating (even more so than a Porsche flat-6), and its top-down styling is gorgeous (second, IMHO, only to the 360 Spyder). The 911 is slightly more practical because of its AWD and coupe configuration, but either one could function as a respectable daily driver.<br><br><br><br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 02:01 PM
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09-30-2002, 02:03 PM
Bad weather is no match for the all-wheel drive TT. I live in Chicago and
if I were to get a Porsche, it would have to be a Carrera 4S or TT. Besides, Z8 is more common here than TT.

09-30-2002, 02:07 PM
The Z8 is a nice, retro-looking, impractial roadster with a nice engine. The TT is a total beast of a machine that will spank just about any car on the planet and can still be used as a daily driver. Like the M3, the TT looks all business. Personally, I'd take the TT over any car in it's price range (SL55 wouldn't even enter my thoughts). Only when you get to the 360's price range would I have to make a tough decision.

09-30-2002, 02:08 PM
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09-30-2002, 02:13 PM
How often do u go 0-60 in 4 sec? They r both fast cars. up to u.

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09-30-2002, 02:49 PM
There is a nice Z8 sitting in the show room of Levin BMW in Schererville Indiana (219) 922-2222. I don't work for BMW, but the salesmen there have been decent to me (even though I didn't purchase my M from them). That Z8 has been sitting there for 14 months... Can you say deal? They don't let anyone touch the car, no sitting, no staring, no smoking, no taunting, etc. Give them a call and see what you can work out, let me know too, I'm curious what they'll let it go for :)

09-30-2002, 02:53 PM
just prospecting now.. seeing how the market goes and all etc....Thanks for the heads up.<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 02:53 PM
that the new one is coming out in a few yrs. I'm in the same boat and I'm going to get on the list for a 2004-2005 model which will have a twin-turbo V8! That car in stock form should have 450 hp but with chip etc you can only imagine what kind of numbers it would make. How much power do you need? How much power do you want?

The current 996TT is an amazing car, but with a new one so close, you might want to wait.

I dont care for the Z8 much but I love the SL55, even with the auto tranny. It sure is a beautiful car.

09-30-2002, 02:56 PM
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09-30-2002, 03:05 PM
Z8 is powered by M5 engine, not saying it's a bad thing, M5 engine is great engine, but there is no other exotic cars(Diablo, F360, F575, Aston Martin, and etc) that share the same engine as another mass produced model in their line up. To be an exotic car, you want it to be special and exlusive, the engine setup should be unique.

09-30-2002, 03:08 PM
even if it's 2005, it might be worth the wait.

It's a safe bet that the next (997?) TT will get the same engine that's in the Cayenne turbo, which is a 4.5 L V8 TT.

Not that you could go wrong with the current 996TT...

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09-30-2002, 03:17 PM
ok.. don't want to mortgage my house and sell all my belongings...100K-130K TOPS... thanks Loki... don't tempt me.. hhehee..<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 03:18 PM
Ello Mr Vancoover Bimmerboy!!
I'm Envious and proud at the same time that you can go for an exotic car at your age ( releative to me and us lot in the UK!!!)
and for the reasons we kinda discussed before!!!
Just my opinion, I was coming out of our usual nightclub a few sat nights ago and saw this Z8 posing just outside. It IS nice, its got that 'classy sophistication' look about it, but, its 'another roadster' type thing, one of the girls goes ' oo is that one of those z3 thingys'? I laughed and said ' yep but its the top of the BMW range motor - 80 thousand quids worth', she goes ' doesnt really look it' ..
of course, if you want the 'low key' look then go for it, just be ready for that residual value to start dropping rather quickly!
The Porsche, yep ! definitley consider that, more 'sporty and more of a punch packer' kind of motor ! I suspect perfect for you!!! (and me!!!)
My thought is this, as your going to be spending some SERIOUS wedge on a car, (im assuming you'll keep the M3 for normal use!!) get something thats 'wow'. Porsches just dont cut it! ( theres LOADS of em running around here - i dont bat an eyelid anymore - maybe different over in Vancoover though!)
The Ferrari's are what I think you should go for and if you can, a Diablo! it's only those Diablo's that make me turn my head when driving around in London nowadays! I wish i had my camera as one day i saw 3 of them lined up outside the boutiques in Brompton once!

Just my 2 pence worth mate!
boy I'd love to go live in Canada and pull out a motor like that with the 'property' price savings i'd make!!!!
Honestly mate - you dont realise how lucky you lot are over there!!!

Catch you up next time im running around in Vancouver !!!

Cheers ! Dennis who's paying through the nose here in West London UK!!!

09-30-2002, 03:22 PM
lots of Porsches here to.. you're right .Unfortunately anything more than a Porsche TT is out of my price range or more than I'd like to resonably spend on a vehicle... No ferrari.. no Lambo... So unless I hit the lottery based one my income, future spendings & investments.. I'll stick to the 100k-130K price range...<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 03:23 PM
I'm hearing this will be the last year of it's production (read exclusive). On the other hand, the TT is terrifyingly fast. That's a big on the other hand. I figure on a slightly used Ferrari. I have a weakness for the Marenello myself. Frankly, we're lucky even to have these options. Keep us posted on this decision.

09-30-2002, 03:31 PM
I know it'a a ford but, it looks pretty damn cool. As for your other two cars, I would say the Twin Turbo. Make sure to post pictures

09-30-2002, 03:32 PM
...don't blow it on a car.

Based on previous posts, you're young...$100k cars are for people that don't have a "price range".

09-30-2002, 03:34 PM
That is, the gold engine bay lining of a McLaren F1. Cut the foreplay and get the end all of supercars. ;)

Or just settle for a Edonis or a Zonda? :)

09-30-2002, 03:37 PM
I could go out and probably buy an Enzo but at the same time I'll be conservative and buy a 100K car... if I was making less.. I'll do with just the M3.. and if I was making even less.. I'll do with a civic... I always budget. even if I had $60MM in the bank.. Look at what happend to rich people who don't budget.. MC Hammer, Mike Tyson... Financial idiots.<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 03:38 PM
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09-30-2002, 03:47 PM
Buying cars is the stupidest investment a person can make. You drive off the lot and you immediately lose ten percent (minimum). Buying cars, like the M3, is all about emotion. On the other hand, you can't take it with you.

09-30-2002, 03:50 PM
Unless you buys real classics GT40,Gullwing, 507, Dino etc...... then those will actually appreciate in value.. but your chances of buying a car that will appreciate like that is fairly slim.. you can't predict the collectible cars market.. so yeh.. buying a car is an expense to begin with.. only exception is when the car is HOT and NEW and HIGH IN DEMAND like the E46 M3 was early on and the 350Z is now... you can actually buy the car keep it for 3 months and sell it for more...<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 03:56 PM
If you know how to move your money you should be able to make more money in the time period it takes for almost any car to appreciate.

09-30-2002, 04:02 PM
of having a hobby that entails collectings cars for value... I get what you mean :) I think the Z8 over time can actually appreciate but I'm not putting that as a priority.. I'm young and have a bit of extra money to spend before I trade it all in for a mini van and a Scholarship fund for future children.. you only live once.. and I plan to have fun doing it.. lucky me ;)<br><img src="">

09-30-2002, 04:09 PM
but i would either go porsche or the sl55 route. But ur a driver obviously.... so the sl55 is just straight line and bling bling fun... no biggy on those DRIVING days.. u know what i mean. I'm thinking turbo with x50 option.


09-30-2002, 04:10 PM

09-30-2002, 04:11 PM
...I wouldn't say an M3 is about emotion. It is designed to provide daily transportation; with truly basic transportation pushing $30k, a $50k car that historically holds its value better than average is not an unreasonably practical purchase.

A $100k+ car is strictly emotional. Just a toy. Unless you can pay cash without giving it a thought, and are already set for an early, long, and comfortable retirement, childrens' needs, parents' needs, etc., it is an emotional purchase made instead of investing towards the future.

09-30-2002, 04:21 PM
PS... I would take either the TT with the GT2 turbo package, or an SL55. I am not a big fan of the Z8, but it will hold it's value the best since it has the most limited production of all the cars mentioned.

09-30-2002, 04:24 PM
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09-30-2002, 08:23 PM
Do not spend that kind of money on a TT. I have a 993s and it is great but I would not spend much on the new Porshes----not because of dynamics (in this regard they are better) but the quality is not as good as the 993s. I can buy any car I want and I would go with the Ferrari if you are going to spend more the 100k!

09-30-2002, 09:11 PM

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