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chubski
11-05-2002, 11:21 AM
I'm a first timer to this forum and I'd like to thank any/all in advance for any advice. I admit to not being a hardcore Bimmerhead, but I'm willing to learn. After all, who doesn't need a new, expensive obsession to spice up their life?

I am going to buy an M3, after lots of shopping, thinking, research, etc. However, I have no idea how this car will behave in dicey weather conditions. If I absolutely cannot drive this car in heavy rain or light snow (1"-2") (with snow tires), then I have to plan on garaging and getting another car (which means I'm saving money for a while longer). So the real question is: Can you drive the M3 in crappy weather? If so, are All Seasons or dedicated Snow tires the right choice for winter?

BTW, is anyone paying less than MSRP for a new (2003) M3 convertible?

Thanks.

gtobynj
11-05-2002, 11:32 AM
The tire's that come with the car are high performance fair weather tires that are okay in the rain, but (from what I understand) downright dangerous in the snow. However the addition of snow tire's gives the car good snow performance and in the 1 -2 inches you mentioned it should be fine, all that needs remembering is that the M3 is pretty low to the ground (especially the front air damn) which will have you pretending to be a snow plow at about 4 inches of coverage.

99% are still paying MSRP and those who haven't paid MSRP must have some significant info on the dealer :-)

chubski
11-05-2002, 11:49 AM
Thanks for in the info- sounds like you recommend dedicated snow tires, as opposed to All Seasons? Any particular snow tire you like, w/r/t road noise, ride quality, etc.

TTBear
11-05-2002, 11:50 AM
The tires on the M, whether Continentals or Michelins, are dangerous on even light snow. It's not so much the tread pattern, but the rubber compound - in cold temperatures, it will become rock hard, and you will slide crazily on even the lightest snow. I got caught out last week (just put my car away this past weekend) - it snowed less than an inch, and getting home, which normally takes me ten minutes, took about 25 - couldn't exceed five mph - with even the smallest throttle input, I was spinning all over. Don't risk driving your M on any snow - you'll be glad you did, and so will the guy that you end up NOT hitting!
BTW, I paid less than MSRP - 2% off (but we also bought a 4.6is X5 simultaneously).

TTBear
11-05-2002, 11:55 AM

gtobynj
11-05-2002, 11:55 AM
I live in New Jersey and don't need my M3 for commuting (doesn't float too well), so I won't bother with snow tires, as I will just not drive the car for the short period that the roads are snow covered or icy, but if I relied on the car for all transport I am not sure if I would go for dedicated snows or all seasons (there just hasn't been that much snow in recent winters).

Check the M3 FAQ for more info and there has recently been posted a complete list of compatible rims and tires available for the M3, but I can't remember who posted it.

mike_m3
11-05-2002, 11:59 AM
I don't drive my M in the snow but if I did I would slap a set of blizzaks on it. Did that with my old m3 and now with my GF's Mustang (POS, no tracktion control either), works great. There is no need to get a set so A/S tires. Just get a second set of cheap wheels (maybe even 17") and slap winter tires on it once you get into snow season. Performance tires like S03's are just fine in the wet.
Just remember that its not a 6000 lb SUV and you'll be OK.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://m3.madrussian.net"><img src="http://www.osbdesign.com/webpics/m3.jpg" border=0></a><br><br><br>

TTBear
11-05-2002, 12:00 PM

mike_m3
11-05-2002, 12:01 PM
<br><br><br><br><a href="http://m3.madrussian.net"><img src="http://www.osbdesign.com/webpics/m3.jpg" border=0></a><br><br><br>

Jason
11-05-2002, 12:04 PM
<a href="http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=677791&page=1">http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=677791&page=1</a>

More than anyone wanted to know about M3 winter tires and wheels :)

I bought the M3 replicas and Blizzak MZ-01 (best for any deep snow and ice). Car ran very well last year although only a few periods of severe snow/ice. For climates with periods of heavy snow ice get the Blizzak WS-50 (replaced the MZ-01s this year). For lighter climates look at the Blizzak LM-22 or Pirelli 210 WS (my preference there would be the LM-22s)


<a href="http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=230766&page=10">http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46m3/forum.php?postid=230766&page=10</a>

srs2z
11-05-2002, 12:04 PM
<br>My Baby: Died 07/08/2002<br>
Resurrected: 07/17/2002<br>
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Mr. Grinch
11-05-2002, 12:05 PM
I got caught one time... one minute it was a clear, dry evening, 30 min later there was an inch of snow on the ground. Going up a long hill, I had it in 3rd gear at less than 1000 rpm and even that was too much torque... kept breaking the rear tires loose. DSC would kick in and try to keep me straight, but it was like driving on oiled ice. Was barely moving at one point. Somehow made it home.

Different story if you have the right tires on the car. Still, you've got to shake your head when you see the antics of some winter drivers.

chubski
11-05-2002, 01:23 PM

TTBear
11-05-2002, 01:47 PM


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