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rventoo7
02-25-2003, 12:06 AM
well my budy works at a Subaru dealer ship and he says that the STi's will be closer to 30k than everyone thinks it should be here with in the next to months. and its supposed to have a 2.5 turbo with 300hp and 300 lb/ft torque with adjustable torque bias and a 6-speed
it also has a redesigned front end alot better than the old but still have to see it in person so who knows.

i think the M3 is sexy as hell one of the best lookin cars on the road and i have herd lots of good things about it even on the audi forum. except for the whole blown motors thing. i mean it is a little out of my price range if i do decide to buy one might be in the summer and it will probably be preowned (how much do used E46 m3's go for)
-after haveing the S4 for about a year i think i want somethin thats more of a " drivers car" my S4 was chipped, that thing would pull hard in any gear lots of torque, but it did feel kinda heavy especially when hitting the curves i dont mind sacrificing torque if i get a car that can handle and the M3 and STI are prolly 2 of the best handling cars out there

so those of you with E46 M3 what do u recomend should i hold out and save my pennies for an M3 or should go for the STI???

shahin
02-25-2003, 12:12 AM
performance between the two cars is gonna be basically the same. The reason I chose the m3 is for the luxury and awesome looks. It just feels great to sit in it. But if I couldnt really afford it I would have been happy with a Suburu. This way if you get in an accident or if anything happens to your car, it wont be as big a blow. Also youll save some cash.

mjs1
02-25-2003, 12:16 AM
I like my M3, but I think the STi is gonna be the cat's @ss. The price will probably be more like $33K - $35K. I would love to be ripping it up this winter in an STi with dedicated snow tires, then come spring and switch to summer wheels. Currently I'm doing 2 cars(M3 and Focus).

I love my M3, but I really need to buy a house someday and I'm not sure I can swing both. Who knows. Maybe I should sell it and get the STi.

As for pricing of used ones I'm guessing, but maybe $37K to $45K?

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Corvette77
02-25-2003, 12:22 AM
The doors were real light and it didnt give you that secure felling that the m3does.

steel
02-25-2003, 12:26 AM
and jsut want a fun driver's car ~30K, go with the STI. Not much to sit in in, but the current WRX is a fun car. The upcoming EVO is expected to have a better interior for a little more money. If you are not in a big hurry, wait for the VW R32 or Audi A3(S3 if we are lucky). Both will be in the ballpark and will be put together better than the Suburu.

rventoo7
02-25-2003, 12:29 AM
but thats just a minor deatal

oregonjim
02-25-2003, 12:31 AM

mjs1
02-25-2003, 12:34 AM
As long as the seats are top-notch, that's 90% of the game for me. Then the steering wheel and shifter feel and position.
I love the feel of the M3. I hate driving my Focus because the seats suck major @ss. Almost to the point of hurting my back. The M3 is like therapy!

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Corvette77
02-25-2003, 12:35 AM
for 24k thats what u get.

rventoo7
02-25-2003, 12:47 AM
a drivers car and im dont really want a 32k hatch back

shahin
02-25-2003, 12:51 AM
But my mother bought me the car. Cmon bro, if your going to try and boost your confidence by making jealous comments, at least get your facts straight.

steel
02-25-2003, 12:52 AM
250 hp stock and the VW/Audi all wheel drive package is better than the Suburu system we'll get. It will be faster than the current(stock) S4, and if they set it up like they are talking it should be a better driver than a stock WRX.

VM3
02-25-2003, 12:56 AM
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Life is a_bitch, so_**** it.
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fpa1974
02-25-2003, 12:56 AM
Seriously. I have owned a WRX for 1 year and a half. Not only that I had a lot of problems with he car, also the dealerships in my area are a joke. I have not dealt with such unfriendly, untrained or unprofessional dealerships in my life. If you are going with Subaru be warned. There is more to car ownership than just a fast car. God forbid to have any problems in a Subaru. If anybody is interested I can go into details but what I know is that I will never buy a new Subaru (with warranty) again. WRX is for sale now.

Also if you think I have a biased opinion check www.impreza.net forums (old iClub), especially the warranty forum.

You have been warned!
Florian<br>
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02 M Coupe
Estorilblau
368S/74

steel
02-25-2003, 01:07 AM
the A3 is coming also - it will have a variant with the same set up as the R32. A3 sounds a little more interesting since it will get the new Golf(A5) platform first - the R32 will be coming on the current platform.

rventoo7
02-25-2003, 01:11 AM
its gonna use the haldex all wheel drive same used on the TT coupe not the same as Quattro AWD as used in S4 and a4
haldex only sends powers to rear when the fronts loose traction making it basicly a fronty wheel drive car till front loose traction.

the AWD system in the STI is gonna be way better than than R32 plus its also gonna be adjustable so u can have up to 60% of power to rear end all the time if thats what u want.

i doubt the R32 is gonna be even close to S4 performance dont get me wrong im a big VW fan just not impressed with R32( youde be better off getting a 1.8t GTI and getting a turbo upgrade if u were thining of the R32)

as for weight the subaru WRX is about 3000lbs GTI VR6 is about 3000 also now add about 300lbs or so for the added all wehel drive
and the STI might actually be lighter than the surrent WRX
and as for handling the subaru will prolly have better weight distribution i mean the 337GTI is gonna handle better than the R32

VM3
02-25-2003, 01:11 AM
one if i\'m into the hutchback. R32= meaneset hutchback i\'ve ever seen.

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'02 M3, 6Spd
Boston, MA

steel
02-25-2003, 01:16 AM
when either the R32 or V6 A3 come, it's going out to pasture. Perfect winter partner for the M3 (plus it can hold a bass amp and couple of guitars no problem).

steel
02-25-2003, 01:23 AM
My beat up 10 year old Corrado will do that and it's not as quick as the new VR6 models. Thought Suburu was not going to offer that AWD system here in order to keep the cost down?

rventoo7
02-25-2003, 01:27 AM

rventoo7
02-25-2003, 01:29 AM

steel
02-25-2003, 01:38 AM
thought they were doing the same thing the EVO was, using the lower tech AWD set up here in the US to keep the price down?

PorscheMaster
02-25-2003, 02:04 AM
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Corvette77
02-25-2003, 02:07 AM

mzinn
02-25-2003, 02:14 AM
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PorscheMaster
02-25-2003, 02:23 AM
I just love the way it looks, until today. 7.1 sec to 60mph is great!!! Is it FWD or RWD?<br>
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PorscheMaster
02-25-2003, 02:27 AM
its performance at all. 60MPH in 6.2 secs? WEAK!!!!! The handling is really bad I remember reading from a magazine. Comparably priced cars - Evo and STi, which kick its as$ 6 ways from Sunday. I guess if you absolutely have to have a Euro sport compact, thats the way to go, otherwise I would get an STi.<br>
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steel
02-25-2003, 02:42 AM
it's been the "other" car alongside two RWD cars and I'll never buy another FWD car. I love the car though - faster than people think, it's been reliable, carries a lot, and it's old enough now that it's the perfect "beater". When something small, quick and AWD comes across the pond, it gets replaced.

VM3
02-25-2003, 02:47 AM
also, for me.. a second faster is not a big deal. I still get what i like best, even though it\'s slower.

but look at the thing. perfect hutchback design. (well this is 100% bias, cz i like GTI) :P

again, not into hutchback these days. :) I\'m a wagon guy now. <br>



Life is a_bitch, so_**** it.
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'02 M3, 6Spd
Boston, MA

oregonjim
02-25-2003, 03:08 AM
divorce.

shahin
02-25-2003, 03:54 AM
life?

s54mpwr
02-25-2003, 04:23 AM

DriveBy
02-25-2003, 08:12 AM
numb nuts were wanting me to race them (I pulled in with my MCoupe). Oh, on the positive side, they did give a set of free steak knives with each car sold at $5K over MSRP. DOH!

DriveBy
02-25-2003, 08:17 AM
STi. This way you can drive it like you stole it. Afterall, no one is going to believe you spent your own money for that homely beast. :) Seriously, the dealers suck (I know your buddy works there; however, the ones I have been to are worse than Chevy.) but the car is hot. I think long-term resale values will suck for the STi.

oregonjim
02-25-2003, 10:31 AM

KJ-TypeR
02-25-2003, 11:03 AM
Do you even know what the term "rice" means with reference to cars???

A $23,500 car that does 14.4 in the 1/4 mile is ANYTHING but rice FOOL!

shahin
02-25-2003, 12:28 PM
I cant help but feel bad for responding to your posts in the manner I did. Sorry to inform you but my parents are still together. There was no settlement, its just that my mother is a business woman and im very proud to show off the fact that she can afford to buy me a great car. If you disagree with that, its fine. Thanks

:)
02-25-2003, 03:03 PM

eM-NutZ/sSutisna
02-25-2003, 03:19 PM
I am really feeling the new headlights...really like it alot...compared to the old one!!! If I was to have a second car, the STi would be it!!!

KJ-TypeR
02-25-2003, 04:45 PM
I did some more reading on it today and it really is a "driver's" car with adjustable torque bias to make it 50/50 or 35/65 (FWD/RWD), huge Brembo Brakes, etc. I'd LOVE to have an STi to drive around in the winter instead of throwing snow tires on the M3.


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