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kmurph
03-16-2003, 05:17 PM
Went to NTB to have my Pilot Sports put back on for the Spring/Summer and found that one of the fronts have a nail all the way through!!! They are very worn to begin with so I was planning on replacing them after a few autocrosses and one track day this spring. Well, since it's obviously not too smart to put a patched tire on the track, I'm going to have to replace them now....I'm torn between the Kumho MXs and Toyo T1-S and I'm even considering the Yoko AVS ES100s because they are soo0 cheap. I'm planning tp go with 245/40/18 & 275/35/18 on stock rims and would like them to last a little longer than the Pilot Sports. Also, I'm not considering the SO-3s because they are too heavy....I'm already adding enough weight with the bigger tires. What should I go with???
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kmurph
Pittsburgh, PA

2001 M3 Coupe
LSB/Gray
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Width-Adjustable Backrests
Universal Transmitter
HK Sound
Xenons

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p9596cabfa5dddf9d39cf44efef62af0a/fcec97e1.jpg">

ChuckD
03-16-2003, 05:56 PM
And is only like 2lbs heavier than the lightweight Toyo. Check Tirerack for reviews on the Kuhmo.. Performance is close to the S03.

kmurph
03-16-2003, 06:01 PM
Yeah - I looked at the reviews at the TireRack and they are VERY positive. I'm leaning towards the Kumhos but wonder about wear and notice that they start off with a only a 9/32" tread depth compared to the normal 10/32" found on most performance tires.<br>

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kmurph
Pittsburgh, PA

2001 M3 Coupe
LSB/Gray
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Width-Adjustable Backrests
Universal Transmitter
HK Sound
Xenons

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p9596cabfa5dddf9d39cf44efef62af0a/fcec97e1.jpg">

ChuckD
03-16-2003, 06:10 PM
I was just checking back because I left out that this is only from a performance standpoint.

I just went through this and decided on the Kuhmo because I am only concerned about dry performance as they will be used for both the street and track.

If I ever get a dedicated set of track wheels. The Toyo would definatly be something I would want to try as a dedicated street tires. Like you said wear and wet handling properties need to be considered too.

From the small amount of shopping I did the Toyos are much more expensive than the Kuhmos

kmurph
03-16-2003, 06:19 PM
From what I've found, I can get (4) Kumhos for around $744.00 and (4) Toyos for $808.00 from Treadepot and $850.00 from OnlineTires.

Also, I plan to use them for everyday street driving with occasional autocrosses (probably around 5-10/year)and a few track days. Wet performance is also very important to me...I want good hydroplaning resistance.<br>

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kmurph
Pittsburgh, PA

2001 M3 Coupe
LSB/Gray
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Width-Adjustable Backrests
Universal Transmitter
HK Sound
Xenons

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p9596cabfa5dddf9d39cf44efef62af0a/fcec97e1.jpg">

Brian - aka HalcYoN
03-16-2003, 07:26 PM
I just got them as a replacement to my Pilots about 500 miles ago. They already feel as grippy and they are quiter.

Now, the MCoupe is about 400lbs lighter so that may affect the tire's feel on the E46 M3. But, from I can tell, the sidewall is plenty stiff and the price is hard to beat...

Jorg
03-16-2003, 08:30 PM
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ChuckD
03-16-2003, 08:32 PM
Can yoy compare them in the wet to any other brand?

M3LAW
03-16-2003, 11:51 PM
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