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07-15-2003, 06:14 PM
Why couldn't BMW put in a roof like the Porsche Targa that is fully retractable ?

I'm all for a large glass roof that will make the interior more spacious and give it a brighter feel, but they should have made it fully retractable rather then only a "vent feature" and an "electric sliding roofliner".

Does Porsche have some sort of patent lock on this type of roof design ?

Also I think we're suffering because BMW does not have an inline 6 that is of 3.5/3.6L size that can produce the 270-290HP range to compete against the many other coupe's out there.

Instead because the current inline 3.0L 6 that BMW has can only generate 230HP, BMW is forced to only offer the 4.5L V8 at 325HP, which may be good for some, but drives the base car price significantly higher...

What we need is a version of the 6 offered with a new 3.5L V6 providing ~275HP and a fully retractable glass panorama roof,
which should come in MSRP ~$45K-$55K...


07-15-2003, 06:42 PM
I've heard stories the the inline 6 engines are going to be replaced very soon by high tech state-of-the-art Valvetronic engines.....maybe even the end of this year, or very early in 2004.

The 3.0 will be upgraded to 3.5, and have 'around' 280 bhp.....

Sounds good to me!

07-15-2003, 11:26 PM
I am told that BMWUSA is likely to offer only the 4.4L V8 in the 6er, like they do in the 7 series( and 6.0L V12) . In europe you have a choice of a 3.0L D, 3.0L I6, 3.6L V8, 4.0L D, 4.4L V8, and 6.0L V12.

As for the price, it will be in lne with the 7 series as 6ers have been in the past so figure ~$70k for the 645ci

07-15-2003, 11:44 PM

07-16-2003, 12:07 PM
The 6 series will not be as expensive as the seven series

that the 7-series has - Tony
07-16-2003, 12:11 PM
I find it hard to believe that the 6-series will be about the same price of the 7-series. I think that the 6-series will be priced closer to the 5-series.

07-16-2003, 12:20 PM

Rocky A.
07-16-2003, 06:48 PM
early to mid 90's. Horsepower numbers were 208, can't remember torque numbers, but it was considerable. Very strong, durable, bulletproof engine. the numbers don't sound that impressive today, but consider that it was designed around 20 years ago. btw, GM puts a 275 hp I6 into the Trailblazer, Envoy, so it can be done.

EdW 330is 5-spd PA
07-17-2003, 06:33 PM
They like to put mild superchargers in cars to make up for the horrible power-to-displacement ratios of their ancient engine designs.

07-18-2003, 01:50 AM

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