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kris gregoire
07-24-2003, 03:10 PM
LOVE LOVE LOVE the falkens... sadly, they were cooked after 10k (with autocrosses and testcourse events).

Now Im On kumho 712s, they're ok I guess, better in the rain for sure but tire sqeal is back and understear is back... Any one else running on the kumhos? at least they were cheap...

Its time for a tire trailer and some super sticky's

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07-24-2003, 03:17 PM
Of course they\'re not as good as tires twice their price. For their price they\'re a great tire, though. Yeah, they holler, and they can understear, but damn they\'re cheap, and they last a long time too! I have almost 20,000 miles on mine, with 4 track days, and many thousands of miles left. dp keeps up with race preped Porsche 911\'s on slicks through the turns at PIR with his Kumho 712\'s. All in all, I\'m happy with mine. Next time around I will probably be getting MX\'s, but in my sizes (18\") they\'re over 50% more, plus they surely won\'t last as long. :-(

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07-24-2003, 03:21 PM
The first 50 miles were almost scarey... reminded me of the OEM Goodyear Corsa's I had on an Accord Coupe years (and years) ago. At 50-60 miles, they started progressively losing the greasiness and somewhere around 100-120 miles they finally started hooking up.

The only tires I've had that were great out-of-the-box were Pirelli P7000 Supersports (on my wagon). The SP5000's I replaced them took a bit to break in.
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07-24-2003, 03:22 PM
and that's without any autox, but some track. You should've gotten another set of Falkens, that's what I did. I heard the MXs are much better than the 712s, but I don't have any experience with either one.

I might be selling my trailer in the near future, if I end up buying a truck...

Did you have fun at GIR? I'm so sorry I missed it! Next time...


07-24-2003, 03:25 PM
The 712s are more than enough tire for street use and great for the cost.

I take mine to the track and yes, they do not provide as much grip as tires twice their price BUT those tires twice the price of the 712s DO NOT give twice the grip.

For competition, than the 712s are not the tire of choice.

For street use and occassional recreational track/autox, I think they're fine. Decent grip and they last long and great price.

What will I replace the 712s with. Probably MX tires as now that I've gotten used to the grip of the 712s, I want to push limits even more (as a result, I need a slightly more grippy tire).

07-24-2003, 03:30 PM
GIR was fantastic! I love that track. I need to hit sebring...

your trailer is ultra nice, whats it worth to you????

07-24-2003, 03:34 PM
I would've bought another set of falkens if I was willing to deal with the wear factor again.

07-24-2003, 03:36 PM
I gave my tires a 400mile break in period before I started play'n hardball again. I knew the greasy factor was going to be an issue...

thanks TireRack! that site has some usefull info....

07-24-2003, 03:47 PM
It was about $1200 new IIRC. I'll keep you in mind when I decide.


07-24-2003, 03:50 PM
1200 might be more then I want to spend, it didn't look that used so I don't imagine it will be to much cheaper. (if you sale it) where online can I find these things? keep me in mind though, for sure.

07-24-2003, 04:16 PM
Hoosiers. I hear for the money that the Toyo slicks are nice. I hear Yoko's suck. Ofcourse this is hear-say....

07-24-2003, 04:31 PM
a nice compromise in my opinion between cheap and good.


07-24-2003, 04:34 PM
They last a long time and they stick better than the dunflops. No where near the Falkens though as we experienced on a Malibu run earlier this year I was sliding with all 4 wheels rally car style while everyone else stayed planted.

Back when the car was N/A the 712's were great although I think I need more/ stickier rubber now with the supercharger.


07-24-2003, 04:52 PM
I won't sell mine for $1200, that would be crazy, maybe $1149! :)

I got mine from SouthSport Trailers in Orlando, not sure if they're still in business.

Here's a <a href="">link</a> with info on how to build one. You can get that trailer from <a href="">Harbor Freight</a> or <a href="">NorthernTool</a>.


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