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KEF
08-03-2003, 09:58 PM
So today I finished my brake upgrade by installing StopTech SS lines, Motul 600 fluid, and Axxis Deluxe Plus pads. For anyone with a reasonable level of mechanical ability, this should be a very easy DIY. This change is pretty basic.

Anyway, for the most part I did everything as outlined at Mike's site: <a href="http://m3.madrussian.net/diy.shtml">Mad Russian . Net</a>


Here is some information on the install:

Here is a shot of the rear assembly -

<img src="http://members.roadfly.org/KEF/SS_Rear_Assembly.jpg">


One thing to note is that the silver clip must be bent slightly to maintain pressure when the assembly is put back together like this:

<img src="http://members.roadfly.org/KEF/SS_Clip_Assembly.jpg">


Also, when I decided to try and "seal" the system before I took the original lines off - this was to reduce the amount of fluid that pours out of the upper coupling when it is loosened. My original idea was to use a balloon, cut into a square and then secured with a rubber band over the filler. But, I forgot to buy one, so I used plastic wrap instead. It worked very well - only a slight drip when each of the 4 coupling were pulled apart. Yes, this must be removed before bleeding.

<img src="http://members.roadfly.org/KEF/SS_Fluid_Cover.jpg">



I did this all manually, and it was easy - I did one line change, then bled that line before moving on. The sequence I used was Back Passenger, Back Driver, Front Passenger, Front Driver. Here is my bleed set up - also note I bled all lines with the engine running.

<img src="http://members.roadfly.org/KEF/SS_Bleed_Setup.jpg">



Now, here is the tricky part - I went from OEM to Motul 600, both are yellow, but Motul is more pale in color. So, I decided to fill a line with Motul, Fill another with OEM and compare my actual bleed line with these two to know when all OEM fluid was purged, here is the way I did this:

<img src="http://members.roadfly.org/KEF/SS_Fluid_Comparison.jpg">
Note: The tubing is 0.250" OD and 0.170" ID - put a little fluid on the end of the tube and it easily slides over the nipple.

Also - it took only slightly more than a 1.25 Liters to complete the job.

The only other difference from the DIY is that the OEM upper fittings are now square, and a 14mm flare wrench no longer fits. I used a 17mm open end wrench on this:


<img src="http://members.roadfly.org/KEF/SS_Hose_End.jpg">


I then bedded in the pads as described at Zechhausen Racing here: <a href="http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm">Bedding in Brakes</a>

I did EXACTLY as written, and just like it says, the rotors now have a light blue tint and things feel excellent.

NO noise, NO squeaks, NO rattles.

The pedal is very firm and it stops very nicely - these pads are not track pads, but for the 100 miles I put on them today, I would say they work very well, they are not loud as some have reported (at least not yet). Very, very little dust produced during the 100 miles (or so) I put on today -

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Lechon
08-03-2003, 10:05 PM
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amann23
08-03-2003, 10:12 PM

cbailey781
08-03-2003, 10:37 PM
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bmwm3coupe
08-03-2003, 10:40 PM
<br>William
Richardson, Texas
2002 M3 Coupe - Alpine White/Black Leather/SMG/Custom Stereo

bmwm3coupe
08-03-2003, 10:53 PM
<br>William
Richardson, Texas
2002 M3 Coupe - Alpine White/Black Leather/SMG/Custom Stereo

mike_m3
08-03-2003, 11:00 PM
is only the upeer fitting now 17 and the lower fitting is still 14? both front and back? I want to add a note (you car is an 03?)

I need to take pictures of my stuff as well as you do - cool trick with the plastic wrap!<br><br><br><br><center><a href="http://m3.madrussian.net"><img src="http://osbdesign.com/webpics/m3.jpg" border=0></a><br><br><br>

KEF
08-03-2003, 11:06 PM
we could punch out the whole job in about 4 hours!

Cheers,
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KEF
08-03-2003, 11:11 PM
tomorrow I'll take a pic of the four of them and send it to you, then you can add it to the site. The bottom is still 14mm.

My car is a 2003 (03/03 build so some say 2003.5) build.

The plastic wrap was a mistake, I wanted to use a children’s large punching balloon - but I forgot to buy it!

My real "thinking-on-the-fly" was - how the hel1 am I going to know we I'm seeing Motul and not OEM fluid... hence the old tube trick!

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KEF
08-03-2003, 11:12 PM
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mike_m3
08-03-2003, 11:15 PM
thanks - the fluid color thing was one of the reasons I stuck to ATE - kind of a psychedelic experience in brake bleeding - watch it go from gold to green to blue and viola! Next time I'll buy the golden ATE stuff and watch all the fun in reverse :-)
Look forward to getting your pics - thanks as always!<br><br><br><br><center><a href="http://m3.madrussian.net"><img src="http://osbdesign.com/webpics/m3.jpg" border=0></a><br><br><br>

mact3333
08-03-2003, 11:26 PM
also.

mact3333
08-03-2003, 11:28 PM

KEF
08-03-2003, 11:47 PM
run both -

Outside of that, the link in the original post (to Zeck. Racing) has some comparison graphs.

I'll give you a little more info after a week or so of use.

Cheers,<br><img src="http://members.roadfly.org/kef/Night4_Sig_R6.jpg">

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mike_m3
08-04-2003, 01:05 AM
your pads are fine - if they are still taking to you go to dave z's site and follow the bedding procedure there or take them off and put some anti-squeal compound on the pads where they contact the caliper (and then bed them anyway).
if deluxes are not properly installed or seated they will likely start talking back to you as well..... probably true of the majority of performance pads out there. my ultimates started making a bit of a noise in the rear when slowing down very gently from about 5mph to a complete stop. this lasted maybe a hundred miles and then they shut up - maybe I did not bed them in well enough, what ever. now they don't make a peep... I think cbsaksiri had exactly the same experience with ultimates - a little noise for a bit then all good.<br><br><br><br><center><a href="http://m3.madrussian.net"><img src="http://osbdesign.com/webpics/m3.jpg" border=0></a><br><br><br>

cbailey781
08-04-2003, 03:33 AM
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meem
08-04-2003, 06:40 AM
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KEF
08-04-2003, 09:39 AM
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mjs1
08-04-2003, 11:18 AM
So should I drive behind you this Saturday? jk!


Mike

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MJS
2002 M3
Cleveland, OH

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mjs1
08-04-2003, 11:23 AM
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MJS
2002 M3
Cleveland, OH

Drive right, pass left...

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KEF
08-04-2003, 11:34 AM
You're the one with the new sticky tires....

Cheers,<br><img src="http://members.roadfly.org/kef/Night4_Sig_R6.jpg">

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KEF
08-04-2003, 11:35 AM
You are the first person to comment on it - thanks!
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mjs1
08-04-2003, 11:36 AM
sticky. Hopefully I'll have some mileage on them before the drive Saturday.

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2002 M3
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KEF
08-04-2003, 11:49 AM
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AEsco48
08-04-2003, 12:13 PM
week i guess i missed the official launch of the Sig....what font is that?<br>





-Andres Escobar


"Not all ///M owners are ///M Drivers"

R.I.P. Sabre....you will not be forgotten! 4/5/03
Miami, FL

KEF
08-04-2003, 12:23 PM
wanted to see who would notice... (no one!)

Anyway, the font is called "Still Time" -

Cheers,
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AEsco48
08-04-2003, 12:34 PM
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-Andres Escobar


"Not all ///M owners are ///M Drivers"

R.I.P. Sabre....you will not be forgotten! 4/5/03
Miami, FL

KEF
08-04-2003, 12:43 PM
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