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SnEd0gG
09-03-2003, 03:53 PM
I went to a bar last night, and on my way home, some a$$hole in a Trans Am pulls up next to me. We were both at a light, turning left (I was in the right lane for turning left, and he was in the left lane). The light turned green, and we proceeded to go. I started driving ahead of him (I dunno why he waited), but after I exited the turn, the guy entered the left turn, and upon his exit, he floors it. I am stil in first gear, BTW. Anyhow, the guy's loud exhaust can be heard for probably a mile each direction. Next thing you know, the a cop shows up, and he lights em up.

I pull over out of sheer responsibility (when a cop is behind you and he lights em up, you are supposed to stop no matter what). The Trans Am makes a left turn and runs, and the cop stays behind me, and he radios in to other officers. So the cop gets out and comes towards me, and I say, "Dude, I wasn't racing that guy!" He then replies by saying, "Man, I don't want to hear anything from you, I just heard your 10 Crack Commandments playing!" By the way, for those of you who don't know, This is a song by the Notorious BIG. I kept saying to the officer, I was never racing this guy, I am just trying to go home, and this idiot pulls up to me in a Trans Am! He kept arguing with me about it, and then finally asks, "Have you had anything to drink tonight?" I said yes. He asked me how many. I said one drink. He then asks if he can check me out with a DUI unit, and I comply with him. So, they finally find the guy in the Trans Am 2 blocks behind me, and the cop goes over there to handle things with the other guy, while I wait with another officer behind me. Guess what...they let the Trans Am go before me!!!

Anyhow, the DUI unit arrives and checks me out, and I am fine to drive. Still, the officer gave me a ticket for Racing on the Highway!!! That's a criminal offense, one which I didn't commit. He said that technically, he arrested me and is immediately releasing me. I have never been arrested before in my life! I then started my voice recorder on my phone. I kept saying to him, "But I wsn't racing!" He then said, "Maybe you weren't racing, but if two vehicles appear to be competing to me, according to the Statute, this constitutes racing." I got this recorded, but without his knowledge.

So, two things happened. One, the ticket says Racing on Highway, which he decided to give me, although we were not on a highway. Second, I was not racing, and I have a recording of his voice stating that "Maybe you were not actually racing the guy, but..."

WHAT SHOULD I DO? PLEASE HELP!!! THIS IS BULLSPIT!!!

Thanks.


the guy gave me a criminal offense!
racing on the highway
i wasnt even on the highway first of all
second
we were at a light, turning left
the light turned green
i never even reached the speed limit
never even got out of 1st gear
the cop got me
i waited there for like 2 hrs
they did a DUI test on me too
and then
i drove home
but still its BS
I even started the voice recorder on my phone
and i kept telling the officer
i wasnt racing him
not fair
i didnt run, i stopped to ask if you were pulling me over or not
and he was like
yeah i heard you playing 10 crack commandments very loud!
just sit tight
its a song by biggie
i even got the guy on tape saying "maybe you weren't racing, but according to the statute, 2 vehicles next to each other, accelerating hard" denotes my necessity to pull you over
the trans am had a very loud exhaust
so he said we were racing
but i got him on tape
i cant use it though
its inadmissible
i never informed the officer that i was recording him
so anyway i gotta call a lawyer now
<br>
-Snedogg


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****Hamann HM2 Chrome 19" Wheels************Stock for now, mods coming soon.

cbailey781
09-03-2003, 03:58 PM
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AEsco48
09-03-2003, 04:13 PM
and see what he said...try calling the officer and find out in a very calm way what the other diver said<br>





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"Not all ///M owners are ///M Drivers"

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2002M3Drew
09-03-2003, 04:17 PM
A good lawyer will tell you if you have a case. Depending on your record, he may be able to get the fine dropped to a lower amount or altogether. That really sucks, though...the unfortunate by-product of driving a very nice (and very fast) car. It's nothing new...

hota
09-03-2003, 04:20 PM
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lionsfan54
09-03-2003, 04:25 PM
Good for you rockin' out to some Biggie Smalls, he was the best.

Alfanick
09-03-2003, 04:46 PM
Get a lawyer immeadiately.
One thing you don't want to do, is end up with a criminal record for rest of your life.

No point in describing the event here or look for reasons that you should not convicted.

Seek counsel from a competent lawyer.
Lawyers are for that.

I say, get a lawyer to do the *research*.
09-03-2003, 04:47 PM

BMWPowerF1
09-03-2003, 05:41 PM
Make sure you keep that message on your phone. It was not a crime to record the conversation (like in the Clinton scandal) because, in NJ, only one party needs to consent to the recording. The incident was in NJ, correct?

mact3333
09-03-2003, 06:17 PM
you will get off on the ticket, but chances are, it will cost ya...I believe racing is analogous to reckless driving, which is a criminal offense...I recently got reckless driving myself and it cost me 2500.00 for lawyer and 500.00 for the fine(pleaded guilty to second degree negligent driving instead)...some lawyers wanted 1000.00 only but given my line of work, I couldnt take a chance so I had to get the person who I thought was best...unless you can talk the prosecuter into dropping charges w/out lawyer, this ones gonna cost ya because of some a$$hole submoronic police officer on a power trip...the officer I dealt with was on the force a whopping 3 months and totally lied on police report...what a spineless %$$#$%%^!...goodluck...you will have to make it to mandatory hearing to make your plea...whatever ya do, plead not guilty and go from there...prosecuting attornies dont want to take this kinda crap to court so its in his best interest to make a deal with ya....question is, are you comfy doing this on your own or would you feel more comfy with lawyer at your side...far as I'm concerned, I hold lawyers just a shade above police officers!

alan
09-03-2003, 06:24 PM
...get ahold of the officer and talk about the situation with him very nicely. He might be able to tear up the offense before it ever goes to court.

Saying "Dude! I wasn't racing!" didn't help your cause. The best way to deal with police officers is to be as obsequious as possible. Be extremely polite, with lots of "yes sir" and "no sir". Don't call him "Dude", and don't say anything in a tone that implies an exclamation point at the end of what you were saying.

Even if he gets upset with you, keep your calm and just state the facts to him.

Don't take this too harshly, but if you had handled things differently (calmer and extremely nice, quiet, polite, and respectful) when he pulled you over, it might have prevented you from ever getting cited.

Oh, whenever a police officer pulls you over, kill your radio as soon as possible (or put on a classical station playing softly). If you have the rap booming, it isn't going to help his impression of you or make him more willing to cut you a break.<br>
--Alan

alan
09-03-2003, 06:26 PM
...then my guess is he said something along the lines of "Yes sir, officer, I was being really stupid and revved my engine hard around that corner. I know it was a stupid thing to do, and I shouldn't have done it. I'm really sorry sir."

Cops appreciate honesty (or perceived honesty). They don't like "No way dude, it wasn't me! Nuh uh!" attitude.<br>
--Alan

robert
09-03-2003, 07:16 PM

SnEd0gG
09-03-2003, 07:25 PM
<br>
-Snedogg


<img src="http://members.roadfly.com/snedogg/DynamicDuo.jpg">
****2002 Phoenix Yellow Cab 6-Speed************1998 Estoril Blue Coupe 5-Speed
****Hamann HM2 Chrome 19" Wheels************Stock for now, mods coming soon.

SnEd0gG
09-03-2003, 07:30 PM
I didn't use the word dude. I simply stated, I was NOT racing that guy. During the entire time after getting pulled over, I said, in a calm tone, "with all due respect, I didn't race."

The guy was pretty cool about things, and so was the other officer (DUI unit). I think I will be able to get it thrown out. I am going to call a lawyer.

Thanks!<br>
-Snedogg


<img src="http://members.roadfly.com/snedogg/DynamicDuo.jpg">
****2002 Phoenix Yellow Cab 6-Speed************1998 Estoril Blue Coupe 5-Speed
****Hamann HM2 Chrome 19" Wheels************Stock for now, mods coming soon.

SnEd0gG
09-03-2003, 07:32 PM
<br>
-Snedogg


<img src="http://members.roadfly.com/snedogg/DynamicDuo.jpg">
****2002 Phoenix Yellow Cab 6-Speed************1998 Estoril Blue Coupe 5-Speed
****Hamann HM2 Chrome 19" Wheels************Stock for now, mods coming soon.

m3guy35
09-03-2003, 09:11 PM
too much bling bling.

Sorry to hear. Good luck.

4thm3
09-03-2003, 09:18 PM

alan
09-03-2003, 09:20 PM
...with each other, you might be able to coordinate something...or share the cost of a lawyer or something.<br>
--Alan

txse46m3
09-03-2003, 11:02 PM
Fight, and don't stop fighting. It's worth the expense, even when it gets to feel like it may not be.<br><img src=http://www.dillehay.org/images/haha.gif height=98 width=152>


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