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DriveBy
11-16-2003, 12:16 PM
A good friend of the family is a general manager of a BMW store and he has warned us against ordering a manual in either the X3 or X5 (3.0l).

He said you will take a hit (deduct) on the resale greater than the cost of the steptronic auto. I looked at the black book and the deducts for the X5 are for NO Roof and NO Auto.

And no, he is not just trying to push the higher MSRP for the steptronic auto option.
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Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

Slayer
11-16-2003, 01:45 PM
Why is this so confusing to people. A car is not an investment. It depreciates. Buy the car you want, not what the sales man want to get a commission on. Automatic is $1275, put in CD at 3% for 4 years = $1435, thus you can sell your manual for $1435 less than an auto and break even. Same crap was said about sun roofs when I got my 330i. 2 people at work are alwasy asking if I want to sell it, 5 speed, no premium crap or sun roof.

atyclb
11-16-2003, 03:26 PM
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alan
11-16-2003, 10:01 PM
I bought a manual 3.0 X-Type Sport a couple of years ago. I took an incredible hit when I went to sell it because it was a manual. I apparently was one of the few people that wanted a stick shift in that kind of car. I ended up selling it to an enthusiast from way up north who could also appreciate a stick shift. However, in the year and a half I had it, it dropped 50% in value. No car is an investment, but damn that hurt.

If I had it to do over again, knowing how fickle I am about cars, I would have either bought something different or would have taken it with an auto just so I didn't get reamed so bad when I sold it.<br>
--Alan

DaniCompain
11-16-2003, 10:29 PM
It would make more sense to lease.<br>Dani Compain
1986 BMW 635CSi
2002 BMW 330i
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stedge
11-17-2003, 04:24 PM
I had a manual tranny in a car I sold - just so happens someone paid a premium for it because they specifically wanted a manual.

I think the X3 is appropriately outfitted either way. Frankly, the manual is far more interesting to me.... AND my wife.

DriveBy
11-17-2003, 10:25 PM
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Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

DriveBy
11-17-2003, 10:35 PM
What is crap is you thinking you are educating people about cars not being an investment. Yaaaaawn!

Here is where I lecture you...

After buying and selling more than a handful of Porsches and BMWs I can say that a properly optioned car WILL bring better money than the same car with an odd option mix. With a Honda options are pretty simple and do not matter much; however, with a BMW it will matter. People expect to buy BMWs cars with leather and sunroofs. Most people will not want a BMW 'trucklet' like an X3 with a manual -- the people who do are a rare few who will not positively affect resale values. This has been proven with the X5 3.0l with manual transmission as a fact.



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Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

rumatt
11-17-2003, 11:09 PM
Geez. You would drive an slushbox for several years just because someone told you it might save you some money in the long run? If you're that concerned about a few hundred dollars, you should go buy a Kia!

If you keep the car for more 5-6 years, I doubt the auto will actually save you money anyway.

rumatt
11-17-2003, 11:28 PM

mhoutman
11-18-2003, 03:54 AM
... one of the mayor complaint of all European car magazine reviews (including EVO's) of the X3 with step tronic is that it is not a well balanced match.

Too much high revs etc. Besides that all conclusions are that the 3.0 Diesel will be the perfect engine for this car. (great torque, less fuel consumption).

Next Friday I will drive the car here in the netherlands

DriveBy
11-18-2003, 07:46 PM
Check my sig ... I do not dry an auto Kia. The X3 is for my WIFE.
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Drive like you stole it boys and girls.

Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

DriveBy
11-18-2003, 07:47 PM
<br>__________________
Drive like you stole it boys and girls.

Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

DriveBy
11-18-2003, 07:54 PM
Must be an auto slushbox Mr. Expert. The X3 auto is for my wife.


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Drive like you stole it boys and girls.

Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

DriveBy
11-18-2003, 08:07 PM
<br>__________________
Drive like you stole it boys and girls.

Bimmers:
'00 M Coupe - TiAg/Grey & Black- SOLD
'01 M3 Coupe - LSB/Grey - SOLD
'03 M3 Coupe - TiAg/IR/Al - Now in the garage
'04 X3 SAV - For the wife
'05 M5 Sedan - On order; the wait begins ...

rumatt
11-19-2003, 06:51 PM
Ummm.. is braging about your collection of cars somehow supposed to convince me that nobody should buy a manual X3?

If so, it didn't work. I still say buy what you want if you're keeping the car 4 years or so. The difference in total cost of ownership is not substantial enough to drive something you didn't reall want. In particular, slushie vs stick, which changes the entire driving experience. If you own so many cars, I would think you would appreciate that.

Slayer
11-20-2003, 09:57 PM
Well I would say if you can afford "buying and selling more than a handful of Porsches and BMWs" what do you care about the selling price? Besides, you were the one trying to educate people about how to equip their cars.

andybmw325is
11-28-2003, 06:18 PM


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