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Shawn 733i
03-01-2004, 04:41 AM
I totaled my car Sunday morning. Went through an intersection and got hit by a driver without their lights on in the dang dark. (never saw them coming till they were on top of me, I swerved they didn't even break--and I got the sitation) (had the yeild sign--slowed as I came op on it--didn't see anyone and sped up WHAM) Spun me twice. Whole front end is a crumpled mess.

Don't have any pics yet, but the drivers rear fender got hit too. What a mess.

Right now I am wondering if I should see how much frame damage was done or just part it out and go on--had this car a very long time. Tranny has less than 300 miles on a rebuild! MAde the hood into a tent--hit the driver's front corner pretty good. Car was still running when the accident was over.

Cops wanted my Insurance cards--OK but by the time they let me look for them the car was on the tow truck and they woudl only let me check the driver's door pocket--gee thanks so got a sitation for no insurance. I took the insurance proof to them yesterday but it ticks me off.

The driver of the other car is pregnaunt. OK--I am concerned by why does that make me the big bad [Oops!]? Like I knew she was and caused an accident on purpose, think that's why they won't belive me that her lights were out.

She is fine, my ankle is messed up a bit.

Both cars totaled and there is something sick about being totaled by a Ford Escort!


03-01-2004, 05:49 AM
Hey Shawn,

sorry to hear about what happened. I think there is a way of proving whether the lights were on: If they were, the wires inside the lightbulbs (which certainly have been destroyed) would have burned out. If they weren't the wires inside the lightbulbs should still be intact or at least not burnt. Have an expert take a look at the woman's car, maybe they can prove you're right.

Good luck and cheer up. At least you and the woman are somewhat OK.


J Stein, 85 745 & 85 ///M635CSi
03-01-2004, 07:40 AM
When you come down to it... your car had an opportunity to fulfill it's prime purpose in life... it kept you safe when some idiot wanted to co-habitat your space...

Don't get me wrong ... I would be SERIOUSLY upset if someone hit the 7 or the 6, (or the wife and kids in their cars...) but the cars can be replaced... you/they can't be.....

I am certainly glad you are ok... Life is good... take are... Regards

John Stein

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Shawn 733i
03-01-2004, 12:44 PM
I am sore today, and in a bit better state of mind. The body shop is looking to check on frame damage--if not too bad we will keep him. Otherwise I have a rebuilt tranny for sale.


Gary in Minneapolis
03-01-2004, 02:31 PM

I am sorry to hear about your 733. But, like John said, the ultimate driving machine is what saved you. Last year my 16 year old was hit head on in his E30. His car collapsed around him, he opened the door and had a few scratches. The full sized american car that hit him was also totaled, but the driver was hopitilized for awhile.Enough said.

84 733i, 85 535i 5 speed, 85 318i, 91 M5

J Stein, 85 745 & 85 ///M635CSi
03-01-2004, 02:33 PM
The third day is the worst... Use ice packs (not longer than 20 minutes..) on the sore areas for the first 24 hours, then heat there after... (hot tubs are wonderful in these instances... ) .... you also might consider massage therapy from a Certified Massage Therapist (CMT) and a visit to a chiropractor to put things back in place ... ... ...please uderstand that medicine is not my field, but this is common knowledge and I have done these things in the past with good results... feel better soon.. js ps.. Ice helps reduce pain and promote healing even after the first 24 hours... Regards

John Stein

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03-01-2004, 02:59 PM
aren't hurt. I would be ill if some schmuck in an Escort totaled my bimmer, too.
There is one thing to support your claim...if her lights were on, the filaments will all be burned out on any lamp that was broken on impact.

Vern 85 745

David 733i
03-01-2004, 03:05 PM
I design homes for people with spinal cord injuries due to car accidents. There are only bad accidents (injuries) and good accidents (no injuries). The steel and glass is irrelevant compared to a life of rehabilitation or a wheelchair.

Be thankful and drive carefully. And get another E23. I will only drive my family on the highway in the E23 and I leave the Toyota for city driving.

03-01-2004, 04:14 PM
Kevin Elmore
'86 735i
223,500 miles
Virginia Tech
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J Stein, 85 745 & 85 ///M635CSi
03-01-2004, 05:00 PM
If the lights were on, there will be lots of yellow/green soot on the remaining glass pieces... (try opening a taillight bulb to the atmosphere and then connecting it to 12vdc. ) that is the color of smoke you will find if they were on. If they were not on.. there will be the typical black carbonization trail directly above the filiment. If they were ON, then typically the entire area will be coated in the yellow/green soot...

However.. some less expensive halogen headlights assemblies in the quad light and dual light systems encase/seal a QH bulb inside a glass lens reflector. Sometimes the QH envelope survives the impact, leaving the filiment intact..

Check the turn/park light areas carefully for these signs.. Regards

John Stein

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Jens T.M.745/325i-Turbo/735i-E32
03-01-2004, 07:41 PM
What are you guy's all doing????/
I invested all this time to help you guy's
now you totall them left an right???????????
Just kidden thank god you are ok :)

Sincerely Jens

03-01-2004, 07:46 PM
My daughter (17 years old) rear ended someone on the way to school. No one in the 735 she was driving was hurt. The Jeep Cherokee that she hit was totaled. The car did its job and protected the occupants. That is the most important thing - plus you get the classic styling and BMW ride as an added bonus. I am in the process of rebuilding the car with most of the parts coming from a parts car that I bought.

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03-01-2004, 08:25 PM
Sorry to hear about the accident ... if you're interested in parting it out, I'm interested in some E23 parts, or the whole car. Where are you? I hope the ankle is better soon.

03-01-2004, 08:27 PM
Wow, that looks like a serious hit. Amazing how these BMWs absorb the impact so that you don't. When you're done with pulling what you need from the parts car, do you want to sell what's left? Where are you?

03-01-2004, 09:27 PM

Steve Poulin
03-01-2004, 11:55 PM

Glad to hear you came through as well as you did! I hope your recovery is complete & rapid. There is no shortage of "interesting" drivers out there.

My 18 y/o son was stopped in traffic about two weeks ago, on the fwy, in a Mazda Protege. Hit by a 2 ton truck hard enough to push him ahead damaging two other cars, broke the drivers seat & totalled the car. The truck driver admitted he simply was not paying attention. When it was done the rear of the car was peeled up revealing the gas tank. His car was totalled. He will be OK.

He will be driving an e-30 in the future, not as tough as the e-23 but still made of tougher stuff than some others.

As the rest have said, the car can be replaced. This type of thing really makes you realize what change can occur in a very short time. I know it can be hard, but don't forget to appreciate that you are able to sit, think, and type on the board. Do what your Dr. says, and get all of your paperwork in rapidly.

Best to ya!


03-02-2004, 12:04 AM
Steins better half is spot on in regards to the delayed effect of these types of injuries. You have youth in your favor (if I read between the lines that you're not an old goat like many of us here), and you should take it easy phsically if you end up sore. In regards to the car being totaled it's always regrettable, but as mentioned several times below, the car did it's job. '

Consider how you would feel FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE if the story you were telling us was that after the crash you went over to the other car and the driver was seriously injured and expired in front of your eyes in the following 10 minutes. I witnessed such a wreck as a pedestrian 25 years ago when a car drag racing lost control, jumped a divider and crushed an innocent driver and his passanger coming in the opposite direction. I ran the quarter block to the reck as fluid started to run down the pavement out of the front of the car. It was not automotive in composition. This event has stayed with me my whole life and I had nothing to do with it, I'm sure the driver other car was scared emotionally. I know it's difficult to take this perspective, but consider youself very lucky,

Shawn 733i
03-02-2004, 12:08 AM
LOL I am an old goat--40 plus. I will have some pics soon, need to get itout of the impound yard (costing 15 bucks a day) I look at the damage and let me tell you it is amazing it was still running and that I got out of the car period.

Body shop says the fram is OK and that the car can be fixed. I won't have them do it--but will do it myself--unless after leaving it for a bit and looking what I can find for sale I change my mind.



03-02-2004, 12:39 AM
I think you'll find the cost of rebuilding will far exceed the value of these older classics. For your time effort, you could find a good replacement and do the restoration on that one and be many dollars ahead. Time for a 745? steve

Eric Q
03-02-2004, 02:26 AM
I flipped my '82 a few years ago after I was cut off on the freeway and ran into the concrete center divider. All I got were some bruises from the seat belt and steering wheel (holding on with my forearms...).

Big Bruce
03-02-2004, 09:22 AM
That's what mine looked like after hitting a deer. The amount of damage was amazing, but nothing structural.

03-02-2004, 05:48 PM
Seems like that was part of a plot line...


03-02-2004, 07:46 PM
I am in Florida and I would be interested in selling whatever is left.
Let me know if you are interested.mpax
85 735

03-02-2004, 09:05 PM

J Stein, 85 745 & 85 ///M635CSi
03-03-2004, 07:49 AM

John Stein

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