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jonam
10-20-2004, 04:36 PM
car:3500lbs, trailer/tools/tires/wheels: 2000lbs?/// Jon
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RoadRat
10-20-2004, 04:44 PM
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trippcat
10-20-2004, 04:49 PM
Handles the car and 2000lb trailer like it wasn't there...

TopazM3
10-20-2004, 04:51 PM
385 lb-ft of torque and a great tranny with a good Tow mode is a great tow vehicle for a track car. I live in WV and everything is hills and ridges. It does far better than my previous Expedition. Went to Watkins Glen through WV, PA and very hilly NY.... It was almost like nothing was back there. I tow 944 Turbo Cup on a Trailex trailer. Whole deal with spares is 5-5500# Only thing better as an SUV is Diesel Excursion which is too big. Keep writing GM to put the Duramax into the Suburban.

ekyub
10-20-2004, 04:52 PM

Twisted
10-20-2004, 05:41 PM
http://pw1.netcom.com/~sdgbmw1/m3e46/images/x5m3trailer.jpg

svb
10-20-2004, 05:47 PM

jsirota
10-20-2004, 06:08 PM
X5s and Touaregs may claim to have the towing capacity, but they aren't beefy enough if you are putting in a lot of miles with your trailer in tow. You want it to be like nothing is back there, not an "active" drive.

So you want a big, heavy truck with a long wheelbase.

Last year I towed regularly with a Ford Expedition. Not bad, but a longer wheelbase would be better.

Yes, you can do it small. I used to tow my Formula Ford with my VW Passat, and it worked great. But at 5500lbs or more for an M3 on a decent trailer ... it just takes more heft.

I wouldnt' do it more than occasionally with a smaller SUV like an X5.

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txse46m3
10-20-2004, 06:11 PM
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DoubleD Racing (http://www.doubledracing.net)
Mod List: Buncha stuff that makes it sound like a barrel of washers rolling down the street.

jonam
10-20-2004, 06:12 PM
way quick... Has it been true in your case?/// Jon
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jonam
10-20-2004, 06:19 PM
to handle ~5500lbs? I heard pulling upto the towing capacity is not a good idea...so 1500lbs difference would be OK?/// Jon
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jonam
10-20-2004, 06:21 PM
heard not good stories in the past../// Jon
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jonam
10-20-2004, 06:23 PM
where can I get one?
BTW, X5 is beyond the price range..:)/// Jon
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steve.k
10-20-2004, 06:24 PM

jonam
10-20-2004, 06:27 PM
could handle that weight...correct me if I am wrong/// Jon
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jsirota
10-20-2004, 06:37 PM
The new Durango, the Expedition, and the Tahoe/Yukon are all roughly in the same boat. I chose the Expedition, best numbers as far as I was concerned (tow ratings and torque numbers). The GMs have a shorter wheelbase. The Armada is in that same category too except that it appears to have a a superior engine. It wasn't out yet when I bought mine.

In the SUV world, step up a notch to the Suburban/Excursion ... both have great features. Excursion has a great diesel, and the Suburban has 4-wheel steering. Awesome feature for something so long.

If you get into pickups, you can do even better.

It's about a lot more than weight. Get the longest wheelbase that makes sense for you. It is the most significant thing that fights the tail-wagging-the-dog effect. Also trucks tend to use heavy-load tires vs. SUVs that tend to have spongy tires for a nicer ride ... not good for real towing. And as DoubleD said, any of the modern turbo-diesels are what towing dreams are made of when it comes to power.

I don't consider any of the European "trucks" enough truck for real towing on a regular basis, as much as I like them otherwise.

jonam
10-20-2004, 06:41 PM
double duty... I will look into those you mentioned./// Jon
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jonam
10-20-2004, 06:44 PM
It seems I should do couple of races w/o trailer this year.../// Jon
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skrill
10-20-2004, 07:16 PM
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2005 350Z Enthusiast
Ultra Yellow/Carbon Cloth
SSR Comp-H 18x9(f) 265/35 and 18x10.5(r) 295/35 (Kuhmo MX)

2004 M3 Coupe (gone ... but never forgotten)

Twisted
10-20-2004, 07:30 PM
http://www.mashaw.com/

jonam
10-20-2004, 09:14 PM
/// Jon
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TopazM3
10-20-2004, 09:36 PM
at 14K now with just a hint of it coming back. It's a known problem. The rotors and some rattles are my only real complaints. By the time it's out of warranty, There will be a number of brake kits. Stoptech has one, but requires bigger wheels and tires. It tows wonderfully. I don't want a pickup, and couldn't get a diesel SUV..... didn't want 2 more feet of Excursion to drive around all winter.

trippcat
10-20-2004, 09:36 PM
They've done a great job with this re-design... Much of the Merc engineering is slipping in... My brother has an older Durango and this one is leaps and bounds better from an engineering perspective... Not to mention the 340HP Hemi... Find another toe vehicle with all these whistles for less than 30K. I've had zero problems and its spent a major portion of it's 10K miles so far towing the M3.<p>
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s54mpwr
10-20-2004, 09:58 PM
and it was not a wise choice :(

steve.k
10-20-2004, 10:07 PM

CBsaksiri
10-20-2004, 10:33 PM
i bet even a modest-displacement turbodiesel in a sturdy chassis could tow a trailer. too bad there aren't more choices aside from the big american iron.
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Phoenix
10-20-2004, 10:50 PM

hagen
10-20-2004, 11:10 PM
the truck doesn't even know the trailer is there.

plus the bed w/cap is loaded with extra tires, tools etc.
Hagen
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<td ><img src="http://www3.sympatico.ca/hhtuner/cars/driving.jpg">
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<td>Driving Instructor - BMW CC, BMW CCA, RAVEN Performance, Ferrari, SOCCI, MCO, PCA NER
<font color="#0680dd">2001 LSB M3</font> (11200km on the track)
Dinan Strut Brace, -1.5 camber (stock), Hartge adjustable suspension, GC adjustable sways, GC adj lower control arms, ITG stock filter, Carbotech XPX ceramic pads, Cryo Euro Floating rotors, Goodridge SS Brake lines, Motul 600 RBF, Stebro Exhaust (upper, mid, lower)
Hartge 18" Classics, SO3 Pole Positions, SSR Comps w/Pilot Sport Cup
Autothority SW, BMW Alloy pedals, short centre console (no arm rest), Full Stebro exhaust
</td>
1992 325i race car J Prepared - too many mods: GC race suspension
1987 325is UUC SSK
</tr>
</table>

skrill
10-20-2004, 11:39 PM
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2005 350Z Enthusiast
Ultra Yellow/Carbon Cloth
SSR Comp-H 18x9(f) 265/35 and 18x10.5(r) 295/35 (Kuhmo MX)

2004 M3 Coupe (gone ... but never forgotten)

sabka
10-21-2004, 01:26 AM
Dodge Ram SRT-10

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steve.k
10-21-2004, 02:15 AM
but thanks!! I also have a friend works same building as you.

PYMtl
10-21-2004, 11:57 AM

on MSRP ? Index
10-21-2004, 02:40 PM

Index
10-21-2004, 02:40 PM

Clifton
10-21-2004, 07:22 PM
Saw this amazing truck at the San Antonio Texas Raceway (dragstrip).

This truck is awesome.




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mike
10-21-2004, 08:24 PM

Bcar
10-21-2004, 09:34 PM
dont know if I ever told you but one of my buddies say you that day.

Bcar
10-21-2004, 09:35 PM


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