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  • 10-07-2007, 04:42 PM
    Stinger9

    And will you just completely forget about breaking

    them in properly for the first 1250 miles like on an e46?
  • 10-07-2007, 04:39 PM
    Stinger9

    You can't do M3 Eur Delivery, so it must be only

    with the military program.
    That's why I bought my 330Ci instead of an M3 in '04
  • 09-29-2007, 02:49 AM
    donpeak

    Re: we picked up a 335 in dec. & need a beater

    to fill in the gap for the old 2001 540 that is going past 200k.
    i think the 135 will do fine with a 6 speed. seems to be popular in germany and is the right size for commuting and nimble enough and fast enough to escape the Houston Autobahn (dba Beltway 8 toll road)
    crazy drivers....we have big diesel hot rod pickups that challenge anything on the road!! crazy drivers!!
    --wife has 328-07 sedan beater but is slow as a dog and she likes to shift gears. going back to Munich for Euro pickup and most dealers will get you on the list promptly for a 2-3 month turnaround.
  • 09-20-2007, 09:19 PM
    MmmHmm

    Re: European delivery for the 135?

    Yes I am, but I have had a difficult time getting a hold of my sales guy over there. He's recently been promoted to manager of all sales in Germany so I'm sure he's busy. When I ordered my M3 in 2002, the time from hitting 'send' on my computer to the day I took the keys was about 8 weeks. Not bad for a car that had a 1 year waiting list stateside. I expect the same on the 1 series and definitely the new M3.

    In any event, there's more to the story:

    I originally ordered a Z4 M Coupe about a year and a half ago. I put down a deposit (same dealer in Germany) and waited. And waited. When the new M3 was announced, I told him to keep my deposit and convert my order to the new M3. I've recently decided that for several reasons I'd rather go with the 135i. As soon as he replies I will post here again. Until then, I'm trying to be patient. I'm trying to time my next trip over there so as to accept delivery when I hit the ground on day one.

    On a side note, I'm not trying to use this post to sell anything, but there's an outside chance that if anyone is looking for the new M3, that I could exercise my option and have it delivered to them. Based on the last M3 launch, I could probably save them somewhere around 5%, maybe more. So if anyone is interested, let me know. Otherwise I'll just cancel that order altogether and convert to the 135i.

  • 09-18-2007, 08:54 PM
    kelfg

    Re: European delivery for the 135?

    Mmmhmm: Are you doing it? When is delivery available?
  • 09-17-2007, 12:55 PM
    rkasal

    Re: European delivery for the 135?

    I saw these in Europe and they're beautiful. From what I've read, the 135i should be a screamer of a car. Our local dealer said they're not going to be in the U.S. until this spring or so. Seems like the only reasonable way to get one is European delivery and break it in proper.

    Thought I was leaning towards a new Volvo until I saw this car and read the reviews.

    Regards,


    Randy Kasal
  • 09-16-2007, 10:03 PM
    SterlingM3

    a group of friends and i are thinking about it

    probably next summer. 135's for 4 of us. the plan is to just take them to the ring and have a blast.

  • 09-09-2007, 10:50 PM
    Stinger9

    I posted my ED experience back in '04 for

    my 330Ci. This repeat will give you some idea of the benefits.


    Why BMW?? I took European Delivery of my 2004 Metallic Grey-Green BMW 330Ci coupe with sport suspension and bi-xenon headlights on April 1. From time to time someone will compare the acceleration of a Neon, or G35 or whatever to a 3 series for 0-60, and I now can fully appreciate why this is the furthest thing that we should use to evaluate the wisdom of a 3 series purchase. Especially when driving this car for 1350 miles in the native environment where the Germans have designed this car to thrive! What follows is my experience.
    By the way, every third car in Germany seems to be a BMW, the vast majority being the small 3 series with the smaller motor. So I was more or less in the upper echelon with my humble 330. Among all I saw, only one other car in two weeks that had my color paint, despite the fact that it is gorgeous. I can't fully explain it, but when I would leave my car parked on the street a huge percentage of passersby would look backward over their shoulders intently at my car while discussing it between themselves. One woman hotel owner complimented me three separate times on my beautiful car.
    I hadn't driven a BMW since 1975, so it might have been viewed as a leap of faith that I made this commitment, but I had the faith of hundreds of car magazine reviews to know that I could not be wrong. We landed in Munich via Lufthansa and took the S-Bahn and then the U-Bahn to the delivery center fully jet-lagged. We ate the complimentary lunch at the BMW Bistro and then walked into the immaculate garage to see the built-just-for-me dream car sitting in splendor! I loaded the luggage, set up my portable Garmin GPS navigator on the dash and pulled out ready to head up to a hotel in Ingolstadt for the night. Within 250 feet I couldn't wait; I pulled over into the parking lot and jumped out to walk around my car again to explore and appreciate. What did I immediately notice? Wow! Luck of the draw I got a full set of Michelin Pilot Sports, the most sought after tire for this car. I jumped around again with delight.
    OK, now for the best part. My Garmin GPS took us shortly to the Autobahn for the hour ride to Ingolstadt. Remember, break-in limits are 100mph or 4500 rpm for the first 1250 miles. To get my bearings I let the car warm up well at US highway speeds for a while. (Pulled into a rest stop and looked at the engine and trunk and walked around the car again.) Now up to 100 smoothly for the true transformation of a driving experience. This is living!
    You know how in the US at highway speeds with the cruise control set your mind can wander? You drift into trying to remember if you forgot something on your shopping list or if you missed any deductions on your tax return or get bored with the scenery because it's passing too slowly? NOT here! At one hundred the BMW hums magnificently: maybe even talks to you. I love that six-speed! In overdrive we're turning a comfortable 3500 rpm. No need to sweat the break-in limits. (Actually my GPS is accurate to a tenth of a mph using the 24 US government satellites. 100 indicated is actually 97.1 mph, or conversely a real 100 is about 103 indicated.)
    So, both hands on the steering wheel at 10 and 2 and legally eating up the scenery at a beautiful pace. Even at that, groups of two or three Audi's or Mercedes will fly by from time to time at 120-130 my best guess. Wish the car was broken in so I could tag on, but I'm not forgetting that one hundred for 30 minutes at a time is the realization of a long time dream for me. Here the car seems like a creature running free. Almost a hypnotic experience with engine and suspension working superbly. Driving here requires my full attention all the time and it feels like the next level up in life. This is what the BMW was born to do.
    From time to time I'll think that these two weeks will be the only two that this car will have this freedom. In the US for years I'll look at this car and remember that once it ran with the big boys.

    I would reset the car computer at the Autobahn rest stops to see what the MPG would be after my sessions of 100 mph cruising. From start to the next full stop it was a pretty consistent 22.5 mpg.
    Careful if you decide to go get ED in April! I saw rain, snow and had it HAIL on my new car. It makes a good story now, but for a while there I was in fear of the hail getting too large and doing damage to my one week old prize.
    Gas in Europe is always dear, but the dollar has sunk 30% in the last few months. Imagine my 16.6 gallon tank. With a fill-up required, you're typically going to need about 15 gallons. That my friend will add close to an $80 charge to your credit card! Think twice about running to the store for another six pack.
    German law requires all cars to carry a first aid kit and an emergency triangle in case of breakdowns. So BMW donates this to the cause, but won't guarantee that these items will stay with the shipped car. So if you want them on your car back in the US, you must remove them and carry them back yourself. So I stuffed the kit into my carry-on luggage and had the airport security confiscate my $.75 surgical scissors designed to cut clothes off of lacerated accident victims! I can now bandage you, but only over your clothes!
    Not in a downpour, but in a light drizzle, this amazing car is not fazed at all at 100 mph. (The rain sensing intermittent windshield wipers are also amazing, knowing when to turn the wipers off and on so you don't have to keep jiggling with the controls. All the numerous automatic electronics on this car truly come into their own on the Autobahn.) I was surprised because I thought I would never have traveled at that speed except on dry pavement, but everything felt as solid as on dry. It is painful after the first rain to realize that your new pristine car is no longer clean with the mud and dirt thrown up from the road dried to a haze. Bummer. But the real surprise here is that after pulling off the Autobahn one day and stopping at a rest stop, I looked back at the car and was shocked to see that the rain at 100 mph had cleaned the car almost as good as a car wash on all forward facing surfaces! Who knew?

    Beware of the Autobahn on the drive from Stuttgart back to Munich. This was the only stretch of road that I drove on after I had gone past the break-in mileage of 1250 and I discovered that most all of this had a 72 mph speed limit. There was one long straight stretch where there were few cars and no speed limits. So I can lay claim to once touching an honest 124 according to the max speed indicator on my GPS. But the real sweet memories are of just locking in on 100 for mile after sweet kilometer and living like the way they do in Germany.
  • 08-17-2007, 12:42 PM
    MmmHmm

    Re: European delivery for the 135?

    That's what I'm doing - except through the military sales program. The only way to do it as far as I'm concerned. I did that with my '02 M3 several years ago. One of the best experiences of my life...
  • 08-16-2007, 10:28 AM
    RamJetBMW

    European delivery for the 135?

    I currently have an E39 540i 6-sp and am eyeing the 135 for next spring. I visited the BMW HQ in Munich this summer and would prefer to pick it up in Germany. Besides getting a great discount and a cheap European vacation, you can have the chance to drive the car the way it was made to be driven.

    Anyone else considered this?

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