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  • 08-29-2009, 10:57 AM

    2004 545 SMG I'v learned to shift smooth you have

    to imagine your driving a Manual Transmission. Put it in Sport Mode and BLIP the throttle Before going to your next Gear. I live in Florida ( No Hills to speak of) But But I also complained of Rough Shift Before comming apon this system. If you Weight the Good Vs Bad of A BMW M5 or 5Series SMG well you Know the Answer Already.
  • 07-07-2009, 04:49 PM
    fea geag

    Re: Bingo!

    Die of aids retard
  • 02-21-2008, 11:23 PM

    Get a 6 Speed.

  • 02-15-2008, 10:26 AM

    Any high perfromance driving instruction?

    Have you been to a High Performance driving school? I have been instructing at BMW schools (hoosier chapter) for about 10 years now and have yet to encounter a single novice student that knew how to drive "correctly". That is, in a way that is smooth, uses appropriate inputs on the controls, and drives the best line. The "correct" way not only allows for much greater speed but also provides the greatest margin of safety.

    It is especially important to drive "correctly" in the M5, which has a very powerful race car drivetrain....very very responsive AND very very unforgiving of incorrect inputs. The reason the M3 SMG is easier to drive is because it has ALOT less power.

    I expect you believe you know how to drive....after all you have probably been doing it for some time now. How do you know? Have you ever tested yourself? Have you ever done an autocross or driving school? The M5 is not like other undoubtedly you quite enjoy at times....Wrong inputs equals jerkyness

    The M5 can be driven smoothly, if you/your wife are having difficulty with it then, at least consider getting some instruction at a high performance driving event. Not only will you enjoy the experience, you will also be much better/safer drivers.

    good luck and I hope to see you at the track someday!

  • 01-28-2008, 03:51 PM

    I agree ! The SMG is manual with auto mode

    not an automatic with manual mode. There is no smoothness in the auto mode. period.
    If you want to drive it in auto mode then you made a wrong choice by buying it. Most people who bought the M5 will never like it as they should have never bought it in a 1st place. the car is designed for the fast lane, not to crawl in traffic. it can do it but its like asking a supermodel to cook and clean up. SHe will do it but you won't thank her for that.
    I won't buy an M5 SMG because I think it is more for the track and highway and I need to do city driving.
    get an AMG E class E55 or E63 and it will be your choice and calling. same performance and automatic.
    if anybody who says the E63 will not match the M5 hasn't driven the E63 yet.
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  • 11-29-2007, 07:27 PM

    Re: I would not compare the M5 and the Cayenne.

    I am planning on purchasing a 997S in the near future. The problem is I made the mistake of taking a Caymen S for a day. The car is so much livelier than the 997 it is amazing. Does not get the same respect, but is the better drive... especially when you are pushing it.
  • 11-29-2007, 07:21 PM

    Re: to 760Lifan...

    I'll tell you. A BMW 550 sport. It is the exact same car from a comfort, space and quality stand point. No, wait, it is MORE comfortable without the herky-jerk transmission and boy racer shocks and high strung engine.

    Spend any amount of time in each and your head and butt will tell you the 550 is a better drive, even if your EGO tells you that you should buy the M5 to impress everybody with how much money you throw around.

    And speaking of money, that 25 to 30k you save when you drive home in the 550 will buy you a very nice brand new 4 door Jeep to bum around in on weekends and drive when the weather gets ugly.

    My 550 is plenty fast, especially with two children in the back seat.
  • 11-12-2007, 04:29 AM
    endri sallata

    Re: Learn to DRIVE the SMG III

    i have a 2005 m5 whith 23000 km i have changed my clutch but after i did 500 km i hear thumb in the rear end.when i shift from 1to2 and 3to2,i think the second gear has problem or any sensor thing.please writte me.
  • 09-08-2007, 02:00 AM
    Greg Weld

    Re: M5 May Have Been A Mistake For Me Update

    Try lifiting on the accelerator a little on the up-shifts... you'll find it's much smoother -- Yes I actually own an '08 M5.... yeah it takes a little getting the hang of it -- but it's still about as much fun as you can get. I also own an '06 650i Droptop... lovely car - for the wife.... not sporting enough for me.

    I also LOVE the Merino leather and up-graded seats in the 5 --- over the the 'sport' 6 seats - the 6 seats have 78 positions - and need 79... not so in the 5 -- wonderfully comfortable!!
  • 08-24-2007, 05:40 AM
    Beemer Man

    Re: M5 May Have Been A Mistake For Me Update

    I have a 2006 M5 SMG and agree with everything said by JAL. This is my nineth BMW and second M5 and I am truly disappointed with SMG. I have driven my car for 16 months and can't get use to SMG. My wife refuses to drive the car alone. I put it in S6 mode only when I drive it which is only once or twice a week now. Overall, I enjoy my John Cooper Works Mini better. Europeon Car Magazince recently stated that the 2008 M5 SMG transmission has received a software update that allows for "40% quicker shifts". I expected BMW would respond given the complaints I've heard thus far. I hope this update is intended to compensate for the annoying hesitation often caused in automatic and occasionally in manual modes. I intend to contact BMW service and see if this update truly exists and can be applied to my car. If anyone has heard anything more about the update, please let me know. The shifts are the only thing that bother me, otherwise, I absolutely love this car. However, if BMW doesn't resolve it within the next year, I intend to part with the car.
  • 05-01-2007, 03:32 AM

    I Agree

    Finally gonna take that big step and sell my 2007 550i with SMG...can't live with that transmission anymore. Really love that car except for tranny. Have on order for June production a 2008 550 sport. I know its not a M5, but the smg tranny in the 550 is even worse.
  • 04-27-2007, 09:06 PM
    Neil Strosnider

    Re: M5 May Have Been A Mistake For Me Update

    I just turned 20,000 miles on my 2006 M5. I wish I would have never driven that car. I have tried every combination of electronics with no satisfaction. This SMG is the worst transmission I have ever owned without a doubt. I refer to my car now as Lurch. I have 500 horses, and i am scared to pull out in traffic. My wife hates to ride in it, and I don't blame her. I owned a 2001 M5, best car I ever owned. I still have the 2003 M3 I replaced the 5 with, and that car is a masterpiece. It is so nice to drive the M3 after a few days in the 06 5. I wouldn't buy a new M5 for half the price, because the SMG is an awful piece of engineering. I have owned manual transmissions all of my life, I am 56, and I have never been more frustrated with a gear box. My 1996 Z3 5 speed is more fun to drive.
  • 03-24-2007, 11:17 AM
    8 Sumthg

    what about in serious stop and go traffic - routin

  • 12-28-2006, 04:07 AM

    dont worry, get the 6 speed M5 tranny

    do you know how to drive a manual first?
  • 12-25-2006, 08:48 PM

    Re: No problems either...

    '06 750Li, Black Sapphire Metallic
    '06 M5, Black Sapphire Metallic, Sepang Bronze Extended Leather, SMG, Heads-up Display, Premium Sound
    '05 Silver Gray Metallic 645ci, Hamman Aerodinamic Mods, M6 Wheels, Brembo Grand Turismo brakes
    '01 325i
    '06 X5 4.4i Titanium Silver Metallic
  • 12-04-2006, 12:57 AM

    I know exactly what you mean...

    SMG was not that great in the M3 either...Actually, the M5 sales may pick up after the 6 speed manual starts production.

    BMW is going to a version of the DSG that VW is using (B.W. makes it for them), when?...I don't know...but its coming.
  • 08-10-2006, 12:53 PM


    If you have driven the M5 for at least 3000 miles, you can't judge it. It's that easy. I also doubt that everybody who's making a comment on that car actually owns one...
  • 08-10-2006, 12:48 PM

    W R O N G!

    I drive it in Auto all the time and I couldn't be happier with it. Prefering Auto doesn't mean you're too stupid to tell the difference between Automatic and a manual with an automatic shifting-option. I BEG TO DIFFER!

    But IF people expected this car to drive like an Automatic, they have to live with it and should investigate what they are buying in the first place before complaining later on...
  • 08-10-2006, 12:42 PM

    No problems either...

    ....on my M5.
    I drive it in Auto almost 100% and it gives you the impression somebody is sitting next to you and does the shifting.

    I think the problem with SMG-shifting is that many people think "Oh, it can shift automatically SO IT'S AN AUTOMATIC.."

    Folks, I knew exactly what to expect when I placed the order and I knew right from the beginning that this car is a MANUAL that can shift automatically. I mean, who would complain in a manual that shifting is not as smooth as on an automatic tranny??

    BTW, I love those little shakes when the car is upshifting - that reminds me of the fact that I'm driving an M5 and not my 760Li. It would be sad if an M would shift like a 7-series or the boring AMGs...

    Smooth driving and shifting simply isn't #1 priority on an M-labeled BMW...
  • 08-10-2006, 12:23 PM

    Really, why not....?

    If you really believe everybody needs three cars to be satisfied, you might have picked the wrong one to start with...

    We have three cars as well and we're doing great without a Porsche (760Li, M5, X5 4.8is) but we share those cars with all 3 drivers we have in our household.

    Sure, the Porsche might be more fun to drive, but I don't like driving in a tin-can, especially not in hot climate...going shopping at the Home-Depot won't be much fun in a Carrera S or GT3 either...

    To get a fair comparison between two cars, you can't simply point out "well, I have a second or third car that does a better job on that..". That's not how a comparison works. You compare one car to the other and not one car's abilities and numbers to one of your three cars. You can't drive them all together, right?

    All I want to point out that the M5 is a great mix of everything, power, comfort, space and quality. Tell me what car and manufacturer can offer that without breaking the M5 price-level (keep free maintenance in mind)..??
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