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  • 10-19-2010, 07:59 PM

    Possibly, but...there are other options > > >

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  • 10-19-2010, 04:46 PM

    Maxwelltf, here is the info on my aux fan motor (m

    in my 540. Build date is Feb 2000. I wouldn't consider it quiet by any means. IIRC your car is a few years newer.

  • 10-19-2010, 01:58 PM

    You WANT NOS - original supplier, not replacement

    NOS parts are typically old inventory that hasn't moved off shelves. Slower dealers may have NOS parts. In your case it appears a more recently selected supplier of cooling fans doesn't make them as quiet running as the original supplier. A NOS fan of original supplier origin may solve your issue. The best way I can recommend you to proceed is to determine who the supplier is of your fan and then call around until you find someone with a fan that is from a different supplier, hopefully the original supplier.
  • 10-18-2010, 02:22 AM

    Agreed - it's tacky on car that deserves better

    I'm going to try to get BMWNA and or perts suppliers to solve this problem. It doesn't sound like a bad batch problem - but sounds like a bad design or more likely poor sub component selection. Simply put- when we purchase a BMW OEM part, it should operate to the same standard as the original part.
  • 10-18-2010, 12:30 AM

    its noisy as an airplane. horrible imho

    I heard it from inside outside but sitting next to it like today, its horrible.

    Its not new but not original either, I think it was replaced with the radiator around 2004-2005.

    Its a shame how loud they are. I will try and universal electric fan which is much quieter - for example Zirgo.

  • 10-16-2010, 04:38 PM

    Strategies to avoid getting NOS?

  • 10-15-2010, 09:15 PM

    New Old Stock - previous supplier's stuff

  • 10-15-2010, 08:22 PM

    What is NOS?

    Yes they are from the same dealer. Discussed with them the idea of transferring a fan from across the country and hopefully get a different batch. The poll was to see if I was the only one experiencing this currently.
  • 10-15-2010, 04:39 PM

    Are they same source?

    Maybe you could return the second one and then call various parts sellers to see whether someone has a fan from a different supplier. Parts are always getting moved to lower cost suppliers, especially for our relics. Finding someone with an NOS fan would be ideal.
  • 10-15-2010, 04:32 PM

    I agree. But it's NEW

    And it's two whining fans in a row like this. Trying to sort out if BMW has a new fan motor issue.
  • 10-15-2010, 04:29 PM

    Perhaps, but rcvd 2 whining BMW OEM fans in a row

    I am on my second BMW OEM cooling fan this week, and both make whining noises that weren't there with the original fan (when it was working) and really get annoying after a while. I can tolerate fan blade noise, wind noise, etc. but not whining/siren from what sounds like a cheap fan motor - particularly not on a solid car. I'm trying to determine if BMW is shipping aux fans with what should be considered defective motors.
  • 10-15-2010, 04:29 PM

    Max, your fan is hosed.

    Sounds like you have a bad bearing allowing for the harmonic convergence. Sounds like your motor is making winding contact once the copper is heated up, so it's noisy. Or there is a queen of hearts clothes pinned to the shroud.

    My fan, which I installed 18 mos ago, is OEM of unknown origin, isn't noticed when running unless I listen for it, and when I notice it the sound is not unlike the sound of a fan moving a bunch of air. When I shut the car down it shuts up. Perhaps the roar of the mighty V8 inhaling through a sewer-pipe-sized intake and breathing freely through a huge exhaust with minimal restriction masks the sound in a delicious way (my apologies, Euro).

    '98 540
  • 10-15-2010, 04:02 PM

    why is tlts "Oops!" out - amazing world

  • 10-15-2010, 04:00 PM

    All I know is they're expensive and redunant

    on a M52 engine that has lost coolant

    "[Oops!] on a bull material"
  • 10-15-2010, 03:42 PM

    Methinks we're flagellating a deceased mare.

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  • 10-15-2010, 02:44 PM

    POLL: E39 aux cooling fan behavior

    If you would take a couple mins to take this poll, I thank you...

    The aux cooling fan "noises" here refer to noises you hear from inside the cabin from the electric motor itself, not wind or air noises (sounding like a truck or bus) from the fan...

    1. does your aux fan make a growling or whining noise when it is starting up. How would you describe it?

    2. Does your aux fan make spinning-down whining or siren-like noises when stopping. While the fan's RPMs are spinning down, are there multiple moments where the noise seems to get louder (almost like "harmonics").

    3. If yes to either of the above, have you noticed if the noises are easier to hear inside the cabin or outside

    4. When your aux fan is running at a typical medium speed, does its motor make noise that is louder than an idling engine from inside the cabin.

    5. When the computer tells the aux fan to stop from a typical speed, how long would you say it takes your aux fan to spin down

    6. When you shut the engine off, is the aux fan spin down seem longer or shorter than 5 above

    7. When was your aux fan installed? What's your car's model & year?

    8. Is it your aux fan original or a replacement. If replaced, do you know what brand.

    9. If replaced, is your replacement quieter/same/louder as the original aux fan motor.

    10. Do you know if your aux fan motor itself has a made in Canada, or made in Mexico sticker on it.

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