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  • 02-21-2011, 10:38 PM
    PShovest

    Service Bulletin : 5HP19 TC lockup clutch seal

    BMW Service Bulletin in post 6

    http://www.bi**erfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409201&highlight=5hp19

    Paul S
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  • 02-21-2011, 10:32 PM
    PShovest

    TC lockup clutch seal

    See photo in post 3 of link. This is the seal I was describing in my previous post.
    Replace the asterisks with m's.

    http://www.bi**erfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518142&highlight=torque+converter

    Paul S
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  • 02-21-2011, 05:46 PM
    SteveGK

    thanks Paul S for the info

    I have 800 miles on it since the dealer gave it it's last rites, and I will run it till it starts to do it as lot. Thanks for the info
  • 02-21-2011, 12:02 PM
    PShovest

    I've read about this TC problem elsewhere.....

    The rest of this post is speculation on my part.
    My understanding is the TC uses hydraulic pressure to control TC lockup. If TC doesn't lockup properly, trans module will detect slippage and complain. This pressure must be supplied thru the input shaft of the trans. There are likely several oil passages in the input shaft. The oil exits input shaft and enters TC thru radial holes in the input shaft. Seals are required to direct the oil to the proper passage(s) and prevent short circuiting. If these seals leak they will cause low pressure. It seems reasonable that a leaking TC seal can cause trans error codes. 171K from an AT is reasonable life. I've got 178K on my original 4HP22 in my '90 535i and hope to go much farther.

    Paul S
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  • 02-18-2011, 03:54 PM
    SteveGK

    JimLev indie information

    This guy is suppose to be good and honest, for what it's worth.
    First he does not work on BMW VW Saab those 3 are a pain to work with parts codes etc.. He said that the dealer could be right about my seals in the torque converter considering the mileage 171,000. He did not recommend a filter and oil change if the car is working fine now he thinks that could screw it up. Drive it and see if the trans goes for awhile, might go for awhile before it trips a code again. He said if it starts to happen often that the fix is a New Trans. He did not suggest to find someone to repair it. He's not looking to do the job, just giving his opinion and suggestions. Everything on my car works fine, I try and keep up with it. I have a new set of street tires, new Blizzaks snows on separate rims. Just did the CCV, Had BMW fix the oil leak on the oil filter housing. Everything is good except a possible weak trans. What a great car, I will have to do some thinking on this one. Maybe start looking into another 5'er, I was trying to wait for a used 2011 as I like the new style........I can't buy new not that rich, couple years old with 40/50,000 miles. got 100,000 miles out of this one for $20,000

    Jim thanks again for all your help
  • 02-13-2011, 03:24 PM
    SteveGK

    Thanks Jim Copied all

    Thanks again, When I can I will have my indie check it if his machine does BMWs (Some I have found with my 535 could not) and change the filter and fluid.
  • 02-12-2011, 11:31 PM
    jimlev

    Forgot to add the 5HP19 (m)


    5HP19 tranny
  • 02-12-2011, 11:21 PM
    jimlev

    More general reading info (m)

    Pretty sure you have a 5HP19/A5S-325Z tranny in your car. It was also used in 3 series too.

    General info
  • 02-12-2011, 10:59 PM
    jimlev

    More info for you to read (m)

    Download and save these. I think I have more, I'll look again tomorrow.

    Tranny info 1

    Tranny info 2
  • 02-12-2011, 08:18 PM
    SteveGK

    Re: JimLev it's a 2003 530I 171,000 miles

    Might take me awhile to get to the trans shop, I work in Hartford Ct and travel from Springfield Ma everyday 72 miles. Real busy at work have to find time to see a tech but, I will post soon as I can.

    Thanks to all
  • 02-12-2011, 08:11 PM
    SteveGK

    JimLev it's a 2003 530I 171,000 miles

    2003 530I 171,000 miles
  • 02-12-2011, 06:56 PM
    jimlev

    The dealer only replaces trannys, it's in their (m

    best interest to sell you a new/rebuilt tranny. See what the other shop says, you may want to take it to an indie that has the computer to connect to your car. While you are there have them check the fluid level, maybe drop the pan, replace the filter and replace the ~3 quarts that were in the pan.
    You could have a GM tranny.
    What year and model do you have?
  • 02-12-2011, 05:52 PM
    525iTNC

    Get the code and use the power of search

    My bet is that your torque converter is the problem-- there's a TSB you might want to track down. If it is, the TC be replaced independently of your transmission. Rebuilt TC's run ~$300-500. Should be ~$1k for parts and labor.
  • 02-12-2011, 03:17 PM
    lezonebay

    safe to drive it. I drove 300+ miles to get home

    and since the trans fail safe is absolutely not related to the transmission mechanical's, it is perfectly safe.

    don't even try and go to a transmission shop. Its electronic fault, check mass air flow sensor, shift control switch (on the outside of the transmission, wiring failures leading to that switch, etc)



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  • 02-12-2011, 03:04 PM
    SteveGK

    More info for JimLev

    Drove the car home from dealer like nothing happened. All they did was clear the codes. Ran smooth shifted fine. Here is what they said on the work order: internal seal of torque converter deteriorating verified customer complaint, found multiple faults in egs for gear monitoring 3,4.Torque converter seal is leaking causing pressure build up not significant enough to operate transmission. recommend replacing transmission assembly due to damage caused by low system pressures.

    I have a trans man recommended to be good and honest, I will bring it to him for a second opinion. The service man said "we don't know, it could be ok for awhile" then complimented me on how nice my car is.I hate to think they would BS me out of $5000.

    I will let you know what the type of trans is in there when I get the second opinion. Thanks for your advice again, Maybe I can give you some added transmission knowledge through my experience.

    Steve
  • 02-11-2011, 11:53 PM
    jimlev

    Look at the sticker on the tranny-that will tell U






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  • 02-11-2011, 09:53 PM
    SteveGK

    Re: On most trannys the pressure can be checked (m)

    I will try and fined out what tranny it is if I can soon and will post if I can. Thanks again, Steve
  • 02-11-2011, 09:05 PM
    jimlev

    On most trannys the pressure can be checked (m)

    You are probably correct, they are BS artists. Do you know what tranny is in your car? I have info on a few of them I can post.
  • 02-11-2011, 07:34 PM
    SteveGK

    Thanks Jim read more

    When I asked the rep if they were going to check the level of the fluid he said they can't because it's sealed. That's when I got suspicious because I read how to check the fluid in my Bentley book.Maybe I didn't explain it right, leaking seals on the converter internal cause it to lose pressure I guess and cause it to slip and throw the code? They are going to clear codes and test drive it and then I just have to sewe if it happens again. I will have to try and drive it and look into other places for a trans. Thanks again for your input, I trust your advice with may of your post.There seems to be a few people who answer post that just like to hear themselves type?
    Steve
  • 02-11-2011, 07:04 PM
    jimlev

    I'm no expert on auto trannys, however (m)

    The torque converter is full of tranny fluid, so how can it have an internal leak. Where is it leaking to?
    Do you know if the tranny was full? If it was low get it filled to the proper level.
    You are correct in getting another opinion. You can probably get a rebuilt one installed for less than 1/2 the price they quoted.
    Good luck.

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