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  • 12-20-2003, 08:27 PM
    ACS330Ci

    Now they just need one in NASCAR

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  • 11-30-2003, 11:35 AM
    steve.tenney

    Endurance races can come down to luck too.

    I agree, it would seem they'd should have tested the dry ice more thoroughly. I was at Road Atlanta a few weeks later and Boris and Bill (even though he didn't drive at the Nurburgring) were still shaking their heads. They all describe the GTR as an amazing car. Tom Milner and PTG do a great job, I hope Speed has the race on to at least get a look at the car.<br>2002 AW/IR M3/SMG

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  • 11-30-2003, 03:05 AM
    DTMurf

    Looks like a collision took it out

    From http://www.procar.com.au/

    A total of 33 cars were running at the finish. Significant retirements included the 420# BMW in a collision with Brock’s car in the Cutting on lap 131.

    I guess it was not the car failing after all, my bad!
  • 11-30-2003, 02:12 AM
    DTMurf

    Re: Seems to be a growing trend here

    Yes, I know what happen in the race but here's my take on things.
    I've been to the ring twice (have not driven it for different reasons) but BMW Motorsport live there; they knew the conditions or at least had a pretty good idea of what they would be. They had the dry ice on hand so someone must have planned on using it but did they ever test the idea? I'm inclined to think not, as they would have discovered what would happen and would have come up with a new plan. One of the reasons they test is to cover all possible problems that might occur during the race which is why they run full race distance tests (we know they tested the cars as we have the video clip of one of them going through the "plant garden") and it's not like they are an inexperience team in the endurance racing game!

    Remember what happened at the first trip to La Man? Both cars qualified up front but at the last minute, someone decided to go with new and untested wheel bearings and the rest is history!

    I didn't even know this car was running at Bathurst and don't know what happened to it but BMW won this race a few times back in the early 90 when BMW dominated touring car racing. Fair dues to PTG for building the car in the first place. I think we forget they are not a factor team...I know they have a lot of backing and support but I don't believe anyone there works for BMW

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a die hard fan...I just like to see the capability turned into results a little more often during these world class events.
  • 11-29-2003, 05:01 PM
    steve.tenney

    Re: Seems to be a growing trend here

    Ed's right, but the 24 hours at the Nurburgring is a unique race in that I think spectators are still on the track for their first lap. So it's a very unique situation. It's more of a parade lap, so they go very slow and that was of some concern. The dry ice froze up the transmission coolers and cause the failure of both cars. The M3 GTR was the fastest car on thet track once they got running. I think it was accidents that took them out in the end.
  • 11-29-2003, 07:16 AM
    Ed

    The 'ring problem was actually caused by dry ice

    before the start. In an attempt to keep the cars cool on the parade lap, the cars had a good bit of dry ice around the oil coolers. This caused fittings to fail and neccessitated long pit stops for repair.
  • 11-28-2003, 04:22 PM
    DTMurf

    Seems to be a growing trend here

    The like the 24 hr of the ring and the LPLM cars, they start off well but don't seem to have the staying power?
  • 11-24-2003, 01:09 PM
    defcon1racing

    thnx for the pic SMT.

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  • 11-23-2003, 07:41 PM
    steve.tenney

    V8 M3 in Bathurst 24 hours.

    An M3 built by PTG was entered in the Bathurst 24 hours race that just took place. They qualified third, but didn't last too long. I wonder if Speed will have this race on sometime in the near future? Here's a picture.


    <img src="http://www.motorsport.com/photos/roadracing/2003/bat/roadrace-2003-bat-tm-0224.jpg">

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