$610 to replace thermostat & water pump, Fair?
Just wanted to run these numbers past our experts here to see if that price seems reasonable. This is from an Indy shop in my area.
Don't know for sure if that is my problem but I wanted some numbers just in case it was. I asked for estimate on water pump but they said if it has been in the red, they like to replace the thermostat at the same time too.
that includes the water pump, thermostat, and any
and/or all gaskets? Sounds fair to me, I mean the water pump and thermostat won't cost him more than a $120-$140, you're looking at 2 to 2 1/2 hrs labor replacing them, plus his small premises profit afterwards. As long as it includes every stinking thing (including after-service care if something goes wrong with them in the first year), then I'd say "go for it". Especially in the dead of winter. In the summer, I'd be inclined to tell you that you could easily do them yourself given everyone's help here.
Re: that includes the water pump, thermostat, and any
Thanks for the reply...
I guess I'll have it towed into their shop today.
As far as me doing the repair, I would mess up the job of changing floor mats! Actually I would assist in the job if someone from this board lived here in Indianapolis and wanted to head up the job but I don't think there is such a person.
Re: Seems WAY too high to me
Your numbers are ok, but what you're forgetting (and what took me a long time to understand until others discussed it on here over the years) was that each indie has their premise(s) to factor into the equation. Most indies will be renting the property (especially if it is a good location), unless they have a license to do it at their home location (or they just sort of ignore the law by doing client repairs at their home and not claiming it and/or mentioning it---no names mentioned here on RF, HAHA!).
Anyhow, the point is that most indies are going to charge automatically for a premises fee, which will ratchet up in lockstep as the cost of the repair ratchets up. Essentially, cpuKEN will be paying the guy around +/- $150-$200 to be able to use this indie's premises, which is fairly normal on a +$500 job. I'd bet on a $1000 or more job, the premises fee in the indie's mind would go to $$250-300 or something like that.
That said, I'm still with you completely about the DIY. With all of us here, and the number of writeups with detailed pics, I think Ken underestimates his ability to repair this himself, also missing out on having the satisfaction of doing it as good as anyone not to mention saving 4 or more Ben Franklins in the process.
I stood by a clubmember to teach him how
to do this very thing. The biggest obsticle was that the waterpump bearing had failed so bad thet the fan wobbled all ofer the place.
Being a huge proponant of being smarter than your tools and being smarter than the job you are working on, I showed (I did not do the work for him)him how to hold the wobbly shaft while getting the right handed viscous clutch nut loose. Then I stood there coaching him the entire way through the removal and installation of all the parts.
Because it was a teaching and learning session it took 3.5 hrs to complete even with the problem and a complete novice doing the work (this guy is a banker)
Total cost including coolant was 175.00, 3.5 hrs of time and someone who now knows how to do this job and effortlessly add coolant with no purging problems.
Some folks figure their importance and their time very high and are willing to pay accordingly.
I rather enjoy working on a car that I dont have to have running at a certain time even though many times I have been under the gun, sometimes on the side of the road which is not particularily fun or relaxing.
Truth is that most of the normal things that go wrong are repairable by most of us with a few simple tools and a little help (advice).
And according to the job mentioned he would be getting a 200.00 premisis fee on top of the 240.00 labor charge. Most mechanics would get approximately 40.00 to 60.00 of that 240.00 labor fee so again. 140.00 more would go to the garage in income, meaning around 340.00 profit for a 200.00 in parts and 1.5 hr labor job. Bet they would like to pack them in all day at that price!!!
They dont do that around here as far as I know because they would all be soon out of business. Michael - Chattanooga Tennessee
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Re: I stood by a clubmember to teach him how
That sounds great... I'd even try some repair jobs with a knowledgeable person at my side but there are few I'd attempt otherwise. It only takes one step that you Think you understand to mess something up and ruin my day! Things under the hood or body panels, etc. Not me, not without help. Things that are more like a computer... maybe I can try those (FSU... I did that, once I was able to locate the booger).
I paid $411 two years ago, parts + labor.
I paid $215.00 yesterday for a new thermostat (m)
& housing. Thermostat started sticking a bit (temp needle woundn't get to 12 o'clock) , so before it gets to near 0F next week, I was able to get in & get it done:)
Did mine same time as VP gasket...had to come....
anyway so really only parts cost. How many miles and have you done the VP gasket?
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Aren't you still on your original radiator?
Got to be some kind of record.
Yes, at the dealership.......
That's about the going rate at the dealership. Too high for an indie.
2001 530i 5sp
Orig radiator & water pump. Replaced the (m)
thermostat because it was sticking a bit. 191K on radiator & water pump. This is the 2nd thermostat I've had installed. Now it runs perfect and mileage is about 2mpg better w/the new thermo:))
BTW 1998 528i
average cost to replace a water pump and thermastat in a 745 BMW 2003 with 70,000 mil
Any feedback on a fair price to replace a water pump and thermostat on BMW 745????? I have an estimate of $1300!