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Turbos=cheap way to make big hp/tq figures..
The high revving NA engine. Anyone can bolt on a turbocharger or a supercharger.
Perhaps you can share the "many sources" so we can judge for ourselves. I for one have never seen such rumours. The only rumour I know is of an I6 with twin turbo's like the 535d to plug the gap between the 258hp 3 litre and the upcoming 400hp 4 litre V8 in the E90 M3.
I enjoyed Jay Leno's review of the new Corvette.
revised 7 series is ugly
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Remember the old E30 M3 ads - BMW's need a turbo like the concorde needs a propellor!
The only 2 production trubo BMW's were the 2002 turbo (worlds first production turbo car) and the mighty E23 745i
BMW played with turbo's before the competition did and found they didn't fit the ultimate driving machine moniker.
I personally hope they don't start producing turbopetrol motors. I would much rather them develop new technologies that mean they don't have to resort to the old blower.
Face it: turbos r the future of hiperf rides. Like it or not, the "M" cant afford to stay back when all others offer powerful,modern,chip bnd tuning-friendly turbo engines.
I wonder how long it is profitable to develop revvvy NA engines for M cars.
If BMW does decide to go the Forced Induction I really hope they have their head son straight and go the supercharged route. Turbo's are for diesels wheres superchargers are for petrol motors.
The linear power delivery of the s/charger makes a much smoother and driver friendly power increase.
Still there is no reason to have to go the forced induction route yet. The M3 is still one of the fastest production cars on the planet.
As for SMG vs H pattern there is no question H pattern will win every time. Redline upshifts in the SMG are too rough and they unsettle the car too much. Every time you go up at the red its this allmighty bang and the whole car twitches. I'd much rather the trusty 5/6 speed H, all completely under MY control. On the track the H is far more desirable.
There exists a huge amount of SC kits of various quality, for the BMW sixes,also for the M3 but.. The current SC kits are too thristy and thus nearly all of the mainstream manufs are now switching to (dual)turbos even for their petrol motors becoz of the ultrastringent Eu-bullsh*t.
As for the SMG; Well we can see all the four most recent M cars (M6,M5,M3CSL,M3 SMG2) have all ditched the manual'box :(.Even the next two Ms (M6 spyder and M5 touring) get the robotically-controlled SMG. I'd still like if they offered a manual model,even if it'd cost a bit more.
The new gen Bi-turbopetrol motor is still not yet officially confirmed for e87,but expect nasty pumped-up aftermarket conversions soon after the first 335is hit the market!
Talked to my local dealer in Canberra and we are getting the 130i. wooohooo time to trade the CooperS in on this beauty
I wonder what idiot Clarkson will think about the 330bhp 135Ti announced in this week's Autocar mag?
people who reported themselves as "fans" spend an average of 30 minutes per day listening to his radio show...
people who answered that he was "crude, an idiot, stupid etc" spent an average of 45 minutes per day ;)
135 should be insanely fast.
Kurt