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    Disappointing race.....or lack there of......

    I understand why the Michelin teams sat out the race, safety needs to remain top priority, but F1 fans are the only reason the teams are there! To snub the fans was a complete and utter injustice. With respect to the fans, the teams and the FIA should have reached a compromise! Screw the FIA rules, screw those who shout fowl towards Michelin! At the end of the day you have hundreds of thousands or even millions of disappointed fans that did not get what they truly deserve and even paid for! The sport owed it to their fans to reach a compromise so as to run the race. They FAILED!! 'They' includes the FIA, the teams, and Michelin.

    True, Michelin is to blame for the original fault, they did not design an adequate tire for the circumstances. They admitted that and did all in their immediate power to suggest other options to the teams and the FIA. Personally, I put a large burden of blame on the FIA. The teams were working hard to suggest many different compromises. Everything from new tires that were flown in, to the chicane, to agreeing to give all points to Bridgestone teams in exhange for the said compromises. What did the FIA do? What they always do, thumb up their rear and ignore the fans.

    Today's shenanegans really makes it tough to try and win over NASCAR fans and the American public huh?? Great job on building public relations Bernie and Max!!!!

    Mark 'Discusted now borderline F1 fan' M

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    MHO

    Michelin was at fault, not anyone else. They are the ones who showed up not ready to race so why try and place the blame anywhere else?

    Don't forget Michelin wasn't about to make any concessions to Bridgestone when they were having tire failures earlier this year.

    Michelin also decided not to fly in an alternate tire the night before the race. Instead they decided to stick to "install a chicane or we won't race" mentality. Hardly a sign of being willing to compromise. Especially when they were the ones who showed up apparently unprepared.

    If one of the engine suppliers would have shown up and said their engines wouldn't last the race, so we won't race unless you add a chicane would you blame the other teams (Ferrari), the FIA, or Bernie if they didn't? The tires are a component of an F1 car's suspension so why should they be treated any differently than any other component? Don't think an engine failure has the same merit as a tire failure? Ever seen the back wheels on a race car lockup at 200mph?

    Would installing a hurried chicane minutes before the race without any engineering considerations or driver practice time to establish turn-in and braking points been any safer?

    The bottom line is Michelin screwed up and the Michelin runners made the decision not to race. That's who people should be unhappy with ... IMHO of course =;-)<A HREF="http://home.t-online.de/home/SBeatty/bmw.html"><IMG SRC="http://www.hawkland.de/beatty/BMW/20040917sig.jpg" ALT="My 330Ci" BORDER="0"></A>
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    Re: MHO

    I think you are correct up to the point that the spectacle ends up being, for all intents, cancelled. That's when we stop being self-righteous (very difficult for the French, as the FIA just showed) and work on a compromise.

    Like installing a chicane, adding a 1-hour practice to let the drivers learn it, and telling the Michelin runners that the all the points for P1-6 are reserved for the six Bridgestone runners and the Michelin guys are racing for the 3 points remaining.

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    Wait a sec....

    First, in my original post I did clearly mention and admit that Michelin is originally at fault for this mess. Let's not mix up what I said.

    Then I went on to say that since this was not limited to just one or two teams, rather it was the majority of teams in the pit that this is now a crisis and thus some compromises truly need to take place!

    Yes, to my knowledge Michelin did air lift in new compound tires!!! But there was doubt as to if these new tires would be subject to the same failure and in addition the FIA rejected them as they were not used for the initial qualifying.

    True, Michelin is to blame, but the FIA is responsible to make sure the FANS get a performance. Six cars is hardly a performance!! The FIA failed to deliver on this account by not waivering their sacred commandments.

    Admittedly, Bridgestone did have tire problems early on, but they were limited to their only competitive team Ferrari and they were not deamed a dire matter of safety.

    The FIA really dropped the ball by failing to improvise when such a dire crisis arose.

    Mark M - Eager to see a spin off series!!

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    I wasn't arguing with you, just stating MHO =;-)

    BTW, Michelin's sporting director is the one who said, on live tv, that they decided not to fly the tires in.

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    Michelin overnighted new tires but had same issues


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