my new 650i -- HELP

[viscomsa]

The good news: I picked up my 650i coupe two days ago -- Black Sapphire, Chateau, Sport, Winter, L7, manual, HUD, no active steering, Absolutely love it.

Bad news: After 54 miles, I got a "Service Engine Soon" and a message about emissions problem. The symbol that is displayed looks like a valve and in the manual has the following description:

"Display of the previously described malfunction on Canadian models". I am in New England so not sure why this is coming up.

Anyone ideas about what the cause is? Should I be very concerned? I have been on the same gas filled by the dealer and the filler cap is tight. I am bringing it to the dealer tomorrow if I can get there with the snow that is coming.

Thanks in advance.

[shaadi]

Sorry I don't have any answers for you but I wanted to ask you about your colour choice. I have a black/chateau 650i due any day now and the wait is killing me! How are you liking the colour combo now that you've seen it in the flesh? I don't suppose you have any pictures you can share already, do you?

Anyways, good luck with your issues, hopefully you'll get them resolved soon and get back to enjoying the car.


SLM

[viscomsa]

I tried to special order (BMW individual) the golden brown merino leather to no avail.

But color combo I ordered is even better than I expected -- the black interior (new for the 650i) contrasts very nicely with the chateau leather. I will post pics soon so you can see for yourself.

[cobradav]

Most likely a bad sensor or inaccurate calibration. Not too much u can do about it but get into dealer very soon. Most of the service messages state the most dire consequences, but with few exceptions, these are for the most part not the case.
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[metzger]

It's still possible it's the gas cap. Open it, carefully and tightly reclose it, and wait a day or two. A service rep told me that it can take up to 48 hours for the warning light to go off, and I found that to be true with my M5.Mike Metzger
2002 Z8 (silver/black)
2006 650 sport coupe (silver gray/chateau)

[grahambishop]

But it goes away after a while. Learned that the hard way. I lie 60 miles from the dealer and got within 5 miles and the light finally went out. Felt like a complete buffoon. I now gas up at 1/4 tankGraham

[Marc350i]

The light does not have to remain on to bring it into the dealer. The dealer will review the logs, determine the problem and replace the part.

[cobradav]

I've gone down REALLY low (8 miles left - 18.01 gal fill up) and never had this, but I may just be lucky on this one fault. And yes, real fault codes will be retained for dealer to locate with their diagnostic equipment.
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[viscomsa]

SLM:

I added the pics to BMW photo gallery for current 6 series. They should be posted as soon as they are approved -- hopefully by tomorrow.

http://www.roadfly.com/bmw/gallery/i...p?path=-437,1;

[shaadi]

[GeezTech]

The SES light is for emission related problems, running down below a 1/4 tank will not affect emmisions, it is designed to run as low as Cabradev went. There is a siphon jet that transfers fuel to a container that the fuel pump sits in so it always has fuel.
Graham probably had a sensor malfunction that corrected itself before getting to the dealer, a inquiry into the fault memory may have told the real story.

[grahambishop]

Graham

[MRB2]

Dear SGV,
I say your chateau interior shots on the photo gallery. It appears in all three photos that the seats appear more "red" that the usual "wine" appearance and the trim appears more "black" rather than the grey that I have seen in either photos or in person of other 645/560s with chateau interiors. Was that just a matter of lighting or were you able to get a special order? It is really a great looking combo. Making decisions on order and this would be a big help to me. Thanks, MRB

[cobradav]

I think I have some posted you may have seen as well. There is a difference in 645 vs 650. The MY05 645 uses Basalt Gray as trim while the MY06 and newer 650s use Black as trim. Other than that any reddening is probably flash or other lighting conditions as it truly is wine colored and not red. Mine is 20 months old, sites in bright Florida sunshine at least 5 days a week and no signs of anyfading or discoloration in 33k miles. Still very, very pleased with choice. Hard not to stick with all the same for my MY08 update next year.
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[MRB2]

Dear Cobradav, Thank you for this as well as all of your other very helpful comments on the board. I was in line to get one of the first 645CiCs but changed my mind at the last second to get an M3 conv. My lease is up soon and am heavily leaning toward a 650 conv over an SL550. My dealer tells me there will be a mild "freshening" of the 2008 650, so I may hang on to my M3 for a couple of extra months to take advantage of the changes. Thanks again, MRB

[viscomsa]

No special order. Color is more burgundy than the pictures suggest. I like it best of the three choices. I tried to get the dark brown merino available from Individual but was unsuccessful. Hopefully, individual will be available on the 6er soon (recently available on the 7 series). But the chateau gets many positive comments and contrasts nicely with the interior black and ruthenium. Good luck. The 6er is a blast to drive!

[cobradav]

Glad to help. I am also thinking of "freshening" my 6er experience with the '08. I am hoping some of the technology applied to the e92 STEP tranny will make its way into the bigger tranny on the V8. This 6er has been one fine car. But by next model year I should have near 50k miles and can use the extra ponies the 650 (or whatever else they have in mind) has. Just two weeks ago I was sandwiched between an M5 (front) and M6 (rear) on a 50 mile run of the Cherohala Skyway in NC/Tenn and the 645 handled the experience just fine. It was exhilarating to say the least. Also made three runs of the TOD (Tail of the Dragon) that day and just extremely pleased with the 6er performance in all facets.
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US '05 645 Coupe, Silver Grey, Chateau, Sport, Premuim Audio (Logic 7), HUD, Cold Wx Pkg, SIRIUS Sat Radio, Delivered w/CIP 15.2, Aux Input, using Cingular Motorola v551 (v557 as of 1/7/06) Bluetooth implementation w/ snap in adapter, V1 - not hardwired. Status Born on 1/25/05, baby delivered 2/25/05, broken in 3/25/05 Upgrade to CIP 16.2 on 3/15/05, upgrade to CIP 20.02 on 3/17/06 w/MP3 enabled - Great, great BMW!!