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    No, because.

    I see the Z4 influence in the drawing. I actually really like the Z4, having owned one. I got so many postive comments on that car. People were always stopping by to tell me how beautiful it was.

    The Z8 needs to be much more distinctive. It needs to be a flagship, not just an upscale model - next car up the money tree car.

    It need a style the stirs the automotive passion. It needs to stand out from the other cars in the BMW line-up. It should never look so close to another model that the un-informed could mistake it for a standard car.

    IMHO

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    ....Just as no one mistakes an 8 for a 3.


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    too Z4ish IMO

    hope they will come up with something better than that.<h>


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    Re: Poll: New Z8 - like it or not?

    Useless discussion, this is certainly not a design coming from BMW, but the attempt of a newspaper to attract readers.

    All BMW people in Como laughed about this.

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    Re: Heresy?

    The Z8 will take its place among the great designs of BMW History- 328, 507, 3.0CSL and the M1. But, inevitably something will come next, and a few thoughts against building an M6 Clone of some flavor.

    Call it heresy, but I think it is possible that the current generation of BMW design may be reaching its logical conclusion. Bangle explored what could be done in manufacturing surfaces. He designed cars, and then challenged manufacturing to find a way to build them. But, it would be a mistake to simply accept the paradigm even after manufacturing moves beyond the challenge.

    So, here is my wish list for BMW. Call it science fiction, but why not?

    1. I want my car to change color. No more should my wife and I have to fuss over what color the car should be, nor should we have to buy two cars. I put the key in, and the paint quickly adapts to my favorite color. My wife starts the car up, and it is in her color. How you would do that, I have no idea. But, with electrical currents applied to surfaces, I am not convinced that it is impossible. LCD watches seem to work, and cost nothing. And, when I want to sell the car if the new owners wants a new color, he just goes down to the dealer who loads the color into the computer. He can even choose the exact shade from the windows pallete, and click, instant paint scheme. Want a custom paint scheme, your graphic artist sends the design to your dealer, who loads it in. Support the Arts. The Art Car idea was way ahead of its time!

    2. Modular body panels. Aluminum is lovely, but it is heartbreaking when dearest scratches the car. Or, some bozo just has to park next to you. If a fender gets scuffed, I should be able to go down to the dealer, they pull a new panel out of the box, they punch in an electronic code that releases an electronic lock, and in 60 seconds my new fender is on. See electric paint above, and the color always matches.

    3. All Wheel Drive. I hear the flames being ignited. I am a dyed in the wool rear wheel drive guy. And, I would not want it all the time. But, a system tied to the DSC could give you options beyond what can be achieved with just rear wheel drive. A World Rally car cost a lot more than a Z8, and when is the last time you saw an international competitor in a rear wheel drive rally car? I recently had a chance to drive a modified Subaru STi on rally tires over a Rally Course. The car has some shortcomings, but the theory is very impressive when it is slick. Just let me turn it off, when I do not want it- i.e. on a dry race track.

    4. Weight. Expensive cars have often been heavy. And, there are advantages to having a solid structure. But, in an expensive car there are new technologies which can reduce weight. Call it utter science fiction, but I want a car that weights under 2,500 lbs, with all the solid handling and safety of a heavier car. A Ferrari Stradale is not small, and it weighs 2,700 lbs. It can be done.

    5. Make it Attractive. Any heir to the Z8, should be breathtakingly pretty. If one has to have a poll as to whether it is attractive, it isn't.

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    There goes my investment!!

    Prices will plumate for the OLD Z8...

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    Its not a Z8.

    BMW will not re-use the Z8 name. This design is, in any case, clearly not worthy.

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    I love how everyone is making a Viper look-alike

    Long nose, big engine, tennis-shoe rear....yep. looks like a german viper to me.


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    Love it - a folding hardtop is great!


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