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    Dude, 99.99% of DE's are well-run; This one wasn't



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    If only 1 in 10,000 were not well-run, we wouldn't


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    What disasters, exactly? >>>

    And your assertion that racing is less prone to incidents is absurd.

    Didya watch Grand Am Cup or Rolex at VIR recently? Or at Laguna today?

    DE's are extremely safe.


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    when she grabs the wheel, her hand looks FINE


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    HARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


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    Maybe that's hyperbole, sorry

    But I still hear a lot that people prefer HPDEs to racing because they think the likelihood of damage to body or equipment is a lot lower, but based on what I see on these and other forums, I actually honestly doubt that.


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    Wow, I have NEVER heard that reason for doing DEs


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    I hear it all the time

    I try to talk friends into racing with me, and I commonly hear that they don't want to take the risk.

    There's also a perception that racing is more expensive, but because the rules limit the mods you can make, and that limits the budget, I doubt that too.


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    Racing IS more expensive because you lose >>

    the abiloty to drive your car to/from the track anymore due to a full cage, and thus you have to buy another vehicle for personal use + often a truck & trailer.


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    isnt' that why most advance students stay in de?

    i mean the ones that pretty much graduated and got full sign off already.. the ones that just show up and the instructor crew just says go run... aren't they choosing to stay in "DE Land" because they believe its a lower risk then going wheel to wheel?

    although when they pass someone in under a point by they are going wheel to wheel... but oh wells...

    just ask some of the folks on this board.. ;)

    there is a risk to this and i do understand josh's point. sanctioned races have very strict rules. most clubs borrow these rules and methods from the scca. clubs like cca do enforce their rules more stringently, but there are TONS more clubs that do not have a club on what organization, safety requirements, how to run it, etc.. accidents do happen, but they happen less in an event that has official rules...

    sure vir and other pro races have carnage... but there is much less death/bodily injuring then de's/open lapping days where there is a lack of safety equipment requirement, less corner workers (or even none) etc... just look at how many de death's we've went through just in the past few years... all of which would have been prevent under full sanctioned events imo




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    wow...didn't happen at all like I was told at the

    I'm guessing cars will never, ever be staged there again. Still no reason in the world why he should have come close to putting wheels off there

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    any kind of car on car contact is EXTREMELY rare

    this is the first I ever saw in many many dates. I don't think you can say that for racing.

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    not true... its just not reported

    racing is sanctioned and therefore reported... oftentimes televised for all to see when contact is made.




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    I'm not taking single car going off

    I'm talking bonehead crap like on that video

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    that was more the fault of the organizers

    as is the other's where students died (cgt, boxster s, etc)

    as a student, he's allowed to go off like that. mistakes happen. thats how students learn. as for him hitting the parked cars, they should not have been there. EVERY inch in front of the wall is racing/driving surface.




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    Reading your description then watching it..

    eplained why he was so far over for the right hand turn. You can't see it in the video.. but seems concievable that he droped two off on the prevous left hander throwing him all the way onto the other side dropping the left side wheels off track which then resulted in the spin/slide.


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    Pocono Raceway allows that...

    ...and a gazillion clubs have run there without issues. I'm guessing that ain't happening anymore. What I'm wondering is how did it look from the guy at the end of the pit lane with the flag..

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    pocono also signs off liability to the organizers

    as does all tracks that rent out... its not the equipment, its the users responsibility for how they use the equipment...




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    "That's so club" - Glenn Yee
    "Smooth is ok. You want to be faster then smooth, be more like a flowing river.. fast flow" - Craig Stanton
    "That's so club" - Seth Neiman




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    would you stand 20 feet from the side of the track

    right before a turn....plain stupid....
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    I think you are right...he's a double retard

    he never lifted. BTW the guy filming is getting into an argument with Michelle. I think he pulled off and pointed the car that way to film that's why she grabs the wheel and he cut the audio...

    then posts on Streetfire,net ay caramba.

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