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    holy freak accident!

    at the track today some dude in an EVO managed to lose it coming out of a slow corner and somehow managed to go across the track twice and slam into two staged cars waiting to enter the track. No serious bodily injuries but looked like a dead EVO, NSX and G35 coupe.

    The incomprehensible thing is that the corner where the driver lost it is not very fast and there should have been no reason it the world for him to get as far as he did down the straight...I still can't believe it could have happened, it's like he never ever lifted.

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    I wonder how insurance will work out

    his "fault?" Track event coverage...?

    Ouch either way...

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    this is the reason most insurace companys are

    now putting disclosures in their policies regarding DE's and the fact that they won't cover accidents at these events.

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    Pretty lame if there's no hot pit wall


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    true, and I guess a lesson in imagining the

    because for the life of me I cannot imagine how this accident could have ever happened. As I said it was out of a slow corner...50mph I would guess... he probably hit at over 40 mph about 300 yards after the corner after apparently running off the track twice and spinning...in a bone dry day. I think he thought he was Colin McRae and he was going to save it because he must have never lifted at all.

    For sure the cars are never going to be staged there again.

    This was on the East course at Pocono Raceway.
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    ah.. the joys of forced induction

    kicks in like a b!tch when you aren't ready for it or need it...




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    Those things get REAL light in the front end

    under acceleration. It's almost scary!

    Friend just got a new one - chipped it, slapped on a new exhaust and fuel pump. For less than $2500 of goodies the damn things puts down 350hp and 348 lb/ft torque. It'll pull on a stock E46 - probably a modified one.

    I blew an 04 M3 Coupe engine. Where's my 100k engine warranty? Buy my Sirius receiver for Nav or my iceLink for Sirius & Nav. How about a StealthOne? RRT brake ducts? M3 trunk mat? All like new.

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    WOW...what track?


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    Pocono east course..


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    Whose event?

    I blew an 04 M3 Coupe engine. Where's my 100k engine warranty? Buy my Sirius receiver for Nav or my iceLink for Sirius & Nav. How about a StealthOne? RRT brake ducts? M3 trunk mat? All like new.

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    Saw it! The cars were MESSED up..

    I was talking to the driver of the evo.. no remorse.. didnt really care.. He was clueless.. it was an 2005 Evo MR, 1998 NSX and a 04 G35..

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    He should get whacked


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    Really? I thought I saw him crying like a girl

    guy in his 20's, short hair, gray or brownish tee shirt?

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    looks like he dropped a tire off on the left and

    hooked back to the right.

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    This is why I don't do HPDEs

    I swear, HPDEs are a LOT more dangerous than races.

    1) Why were those cars parked where a car on track could easily reach them?
    2) Why did the driver of the car with the camera pull over where HE could also be hit?

    Yes, accidents happen. But putting cars or people in the line of fire of errant cars on track ... I would have never run in that event. I would certainly never have parked my car in that line. I've seen too many things happen.

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    I have never been to an HPDE that has allowed

    What, were they showing off their cars to the drivers on the track, hoping to score an appearance in some in car footage? I hope this kind of sh&t does not ruin these events for the rest of us.

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    Dude, 99.99% of DE's are well-run; This one wasn't


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    If only 1 in 10,000 were not well-run, we wouldn't


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    What disasters, exactly? >>>

    And your assertion that racing is less prone to incidents is absurd.

    Didya watch Grand Am Cup or Rolex at VIR recently? Or at Laguna today?

    DE's are extremely safe.


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    It is the few stupid ones that make it look that

    Research the organization doing the DE before going. Don't go to stupid ones. Talk to your friends about various groups organizing.

    I just came back from WGI event with Trackmasters. Very high speeds and very competent organization. The open track group did not have any crashes and any drivers not following the rules strictly enough were deal with promptly(including myself for an apparent no point-by pass).

    Most BMWCCA events are well run and so are PCA and Audi club schools. Single car accidents do happen but in almost all cases the driver is the only one responsible. Some happen due to spilled fluids but the same can happen in racing.

    Also not every venue is a good venue in terms of safety. At the Glen the armco is very close but that is a factor in single car accidents. The accident described above is impossible at the Glen or any other place I go to. I will make a note not to consider Pocono much after this.

    There is risk in DE, duh! But wheel-to-wheel racing is a totally different thing. I have plenty of BMWCCA friends who have been punted off the track during a race. Don't know anyone who had anything similar during a DE and I know a lot more DE guys than racers.

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