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    Will epoxy stand up to a 4-post lift?

    Thanks everyone. I've just received a 4-post lift, and waiting to put it together. I'm also thinking about the 2-coat epoxy treatment for the floor, but I'm worried that the lift's posts will damage the epoxy.
    Anyone have any experience or knowledge regarding this? If the epoxy is a no-go with the lift, what are my alternatives? I'm not crazy about the jigsaw rubber mat thing.

    Also, will the epoxy stand up to a Canadian winter? The garage is heated, but there will be big time salt and grit on it for a good five months of the year :-(

    I'd really appreciate any help! Thanks




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    epoxy is often only as good as the

    prep work - the epoxy I used has a 11,000 psi compresive strength, compared to most concrete is about 3000 psi. It depends on which epoxy you use - and I would consult the manufacturers specs regarding salt, etc, you may also consider a no-slip additive - mine is slick when wet.

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    Salt isn't a problem, my wifes side of the (m)

    garage floor saw snow, sand, and salt all winter long (MA) and it looks just the same as my side, my car is parked for the winter and the floor stays dry.
    The 4-post lift, this is one that bolts to the cement floor? Shouldn't be a problem.
    Not that this is an apples to apples comparison, but my floor jack hasn't done any damage to the epoxy from the metal jack wheels rolling on the floor as I lift the front/rear of the car.

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    Nope - not bolted to the floor. Rolls around.....

    It is a four-post lift, that actually has casters, so you can actually wheel the whole lift around the garage - apparently, even with a car up on it.
    That's why I'm concerned about the epoxy holding up - the casters are solid metal. I wouldn't be rolling the lift around with a car on it, but even with an empty lift, I'm worried about damaging the epoxy.


    Thanks for any input!!




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    Re: Nope - not bolted to the floor. Rolls around.....

    With the weight of the front of the car on the rollers of my floor jack (~1500+ Lbs) the jack does roll about 1-2" as the car is raised. There hasn't been any damage to the epoxy. If you have 4 rollers and no car on the lift, I would guess that the weight on each post would be a few hundred pounds?? Should be OK.
    Got a link to the lift you are going to use? I'd like to see it.

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    Thanks for the info - here's a link...


    Four post lift link

    Lots of vendors sell it, and similar ones. I went with this one because there's no way that I'll have to lift more than 7000 pounds. Me and a colleague set the thing up in four hours. The two runways are heavy, but the rest is more than manageable. I also picked up the Pro Jack - for an extra $495, it will be great for jacking up the car at the front or back, for wheel swaps, etc.

    Greg Smith equipment had the cheapest price (most vendors sell the Direct Lift Pro Park 7, it seems) - $1649, but I live closest to ND, so I went with Benco (www.bencostuff.com).

    Thanks for the info again!




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    Looks good, I watched the video. If you are (m)

    concerned about the rollers marking up the floor you could get some teflon tape that has an adhesive on the backside. Put this on the rollers and you'll be gliding in Teflon! I've used it before on a few projects, just don't remember where I got it. It was 2" wide and about .5 mm thick.
    I wish I had the vertical clearance in my garage for this lift.....next house!


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    Great tip - I'll give it a whirl. Thanks!

    It's surprising how little clearance you need. Our garage door is only 8 feet high, which means that the car on the top of the lift will have to be reversed onto the lift, so the garage door only has to clear the hood, but I think realistically, a ten foot high garage ceiling would work - 11, just to be sure, I guess.

    Thanks for the tips - most appreciated!




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    My 4-pole used to "walks" ever so slightly

    everytime the vehicle goes on and off...
    I use mine daily and the total distance is maybe an inch or two over a years time...but this can scratch (not damage...but aesthetic) the epoxy. So I put a high density, super thin rubber pad (like a mousepad) under each leg and this stopped any movement (and scratching).

    I also had some scratches from the sharp edges of the ramps...so they got rounded down with a grinder.

    I LOVE my epoxy and have a lot of lessons learned...some pictures can be seen on this forum below (Tomcat)

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    I have caster'd mine around...no problems

    But any pebbles/foreign objects on the floor will cause scratches, etc...

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    Link...6th down on this page

    http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/testimonials2.php

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    I used Greg Smith!


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    Thanks, Tom - can you tell me.......

    where you got the gray mat that you put under the lift? I think that's exactly what I'm looking for - epoxy or otherwise.


    Thanks!




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    Two part epoxy (Valspar brand)...no flakes...

    Since epoxy is slick when wet, I masked off "parking pads" under the cars and just Cement stained (faux bick) the other areas...for safety and aesthetics.

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    Thanks! Great work!






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    All epoxy finishes will eventually fail

    Talk to any experienced professional concrete finish contractor and they will tell you that epoxy paints on concrete simply do not last. Yes, you'll hear the mantra about "preparation is everything," but the reality is that epoxy fails.

    When deciding on the finish on my new construction home, I looked at several homes with Griots and UCoat-it epoxy. Whether professionally applied or not, the results looked bad...lifting, scratching, scuffing and loss of luster.

    Have you ever noticed the "glamour shots" of epoxy painted floors are always taken soon after the painting? Ever see the a real-life, daily driven painted garage floors? Ever wonder why commercial concrete finishes are acid stained and sealed, rather than epoxy painted?

    Sorry for the long rant, but I think the photos of freshly painted garage floors mislead people about their durability.

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    4 post car lifts / Benco car lifts

    Anyone else using the Benco car lift? If so, I'd appreciate any thoughts; they seem good but are so much less expensive than others it makes me wonder what's up.

    Thx, Scott in Minneapolis

    PS: If you could ping me at [email protected] I'd appreciate it.

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    Re: All epoxy finishes will eventually fail

    I have to agree. I had a professional company redo my floor 3 times with epoxy and it is still not right. Anything rubber that touches the floor, Bicycle, Motorcycle or Car, removes the clear completely. In time there will not be any clear left but, after redoing the job 3 times I just don't have anymore time for my cabinets, motorcycles and car to sit outside any longer. Anyone else experience this type of problem?

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    Same problem here

    My double-coated epoxy floor lasted until the first time I put my car up on ramps. The rubber on the bottom of the ramps pulled the epoxy right up.

    I will never bother with epoxy again.

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    Re: 4 post car lifts / Benco car lifts

    Here are some install photos from a recent install of our
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