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    88 E28 black on black M5 77,000 Whats it worth?

    My wife and I are thinking of selling our 88 M5 which was given to us for a debt repayment. It is listed on other sites but the value is of question. It is a Canadian car bought in Vancouver, B.C. It currently has 77,000 miles, original black body panels with stickers, new 16" BBS OEM wheels, centres and Michelin Pilots, new dealer installed clutch, all new brakes. 1 of 28 with black leather, rumoured to be buffalo leather but Im not an expert with these cars. Leather interior is 9 out of 10. Everything works including a/c. We are hoping to get $16,750 US. Car drives like new, original everything, never abused and garage kept. Pics are available to interested people. E mail [email protected] for more info.


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    Re: Prod. figure is erroneous.Buffalo not avail in NA.

    Production figure is erroneous? I have a e mail from BMW of Canada stating that 28 of the cars that came into Canada were black leathered interior cars. Please back up your statements with facts before posting non legitimate comments.

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    I agree. I do think buffalo was the leather too

    My M3 has buffalo leather and it is very similar in feel to My M5.

    I hope you can get your price. It is time for these things to go up again. I bought my car in nice shape with about the same mileage, ( a few k less) and I paid $14kUS that was back in 2001 I think. keep us posted .. some pics would be nice to see.

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    Re: I agree. I do think buffalo was the leather too

    With the rarity of the black leather, whether it is buffalo or not it is well worth the asking price of $16,500 USD. I know of similar cars that have sold for more. Good luck with the sale.

    If the car is still in Canada, you may want to contact BMWNA and/or a local dealer to certify the car meets all U.S. emission standards and maybe help with the shipping costs? This could help you along with the sale.

    Having purchased a euro M5 from Canada, I can tell you first hand that the beuracracies here will wear you down to a level of frustration that you would be sorry that you ever thought of purchasing the car!

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    Re: I agree. I do think buffalo was the leather

    Interesting.
    My e28 M5 is black/black.
    Is everyone saying buffalo was *available*, or *standard* in the Great White North?

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    Re: Prod. figure is erroneous.Buffalo not avail in NA.

    Mark,

    He may be thinking about the total figure for black over black North American market M5s. I haven't seen anything more firm, in several sources, than 25 to 50 copies with the black leather (one source says 12-50). Someone would have to go through all 1200+ US/CDN spec VINs to try to figure it out, and that may not produce an accurate result due to BMW's spotty record-keeping from the era.

    That being said, I guess your bargaining position is going to be less flexible now, eh? :-)

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    Are m5's in Canada held to the same smog standards

    It is my understanding that the German M's have no cat, different cams, and higher compression ratio along with 30 more HP. I wonder abot the Canadian spec M's?

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    I have ben told Water Buffalo not Tantanka! DWW

    I have heard Buffalo too but not the Buffalo most of us are thinking of ( or mabey it's just me) Water buffalo are a real problem in Germany just like deer in the states. People hit them on the way to work, they are tearing up gardens, and generaly terrorizing people so the started making seats out of them, it makes perfect sense if you stop and thik abuot it!....Cowhide! HA! Cows never bothered anyone DUH! MMMOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Signed VOICE OF REASON. P.S. please excuse my spelling ther was a water buffalo chasing me the whole time I was writing this.

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    Canadian cars (m5) are same as US.

    there are always people that refer to the EUROSPEC e36 M3, that was 45 cars we got in 1994. They are not eurospec cars.. they are CANADIAN spec. cars. with a european motor, but otherwise Canadianised. The e28 M5s in Canada are identical to the US versions except we got metric gauges, icons instead of words on the idiot lights, and I think most cars had heated seats.

    I think at this point that condtion is much more important to colour, and price for the car is more about how good the seats are and not if they are black or white.


    My M3 is an e36 and there is a sample of leather in the glove box that says Buffalo...

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    Re: Canadian cars (m5) are same as US.

    Well said Bruce.

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    E28 M5 with Buffalo interior pics




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    I bought my blk/blk CA M5 in Montreal in Dec 2001.

    Bruce is correct! I had a letter from BMW Canada stating that my BMW 1988 M5 VIN met all USA DOT and EPA regulations. The letter also stated that the speedometer needed to be changed from KM to MPH. I had the BMW Canada letter, Bill of Sale, Current Quebec registration to cross the border and the speedometer had already been switched. The cost at the border...$0.00. So simple! Easy registation in the USA with the customs approval/stamped import document. REGARDING 1988 M5 black leather. I also had a regular USA blk/tan M5. In my opinion, having seen "Buffalo leather" on many grey market M635 cars including several black buffalo leather interiors, there is no way that the blk leather in the Canadian 1988 M5 was Buffalo leather. The Buffalo leather is not only much thicker but Buffalo leather also has a distinct mottled appearance and it is obvious visually.

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