new cars suck

[stupid me]

I just bought a Subaru Impreza. It is a very nice car, after you disable the beeping from the lock transmitter, then disable the alarm system so you can unlock the car with the damn key without the alarm going off. There is no lock on the passenger side door nor on the trunk. The headlights go off and on when I apply and release the emergency brake. It will be a great car for the first 5 years. But in 10 years when things start to break, it is really going to be a [Oops!].

Why can't somebody make a solid car that drives well without power locks, alarm systems, power windows, cruise control, automatic headlights, and a stupidly silly amount of really unnecessary electrical "features"?

[kway]

[stupid me]

All the GM cars I've driven in the last decade drive like Buicks.

[kway]

....probably had the most fun with the Aveo.

[stupid me]

[kway]

You said you wanted something stripped, there it is. Your choices are pretty limited in that department. I know the Honda Fit comes nicely loaded with everything you don't want, so forget that. Pretty sure the same goes for the Nissan Versa and Toyota Yaris also. Kia Rio can probably be had stripped, but that's a horrible POS. Not sure about the new Hyundai Accent, the outgoing one was dreadful though. What's wrong with having a few convenience items anyway? When they break later on, you fix them. Just like our E30s.

[stupid me]

When convenience items stop working on my E30, I stop using them and keep driving. I'm just afraid that if my headlights are related to my e-brake, my turn signal lights are related to my locks, and my ECU is related to my lock transmitters, when something breaks, I won't be able to drive anymore.

I really like how the E30 has a separate computer for the engine.

I have several friends who are on their second or third Subaru, after racking up 200k+ miles without any major problems on all of their previous ones, and I've driven their 10 year old Subarus, which were sill nice driving cars after 10 years and 150k+ miles.

[kway]

Just shy of 100k miles, only real problem yet has been a leaking A/C o-ring. $2.00. So yeah, they seem like solid cars.

[ColinC]

GM bought Daewoo. The Aveo is a Daewoo, as are all of the Suzuki cars. They don't have the features of Japanese cars, but they're simple and durable.

[Father Otto T itsling]

My experience with GM agrees with your assertion, they still run even with a lot of broken parts. My biggest gripe is with the interior. That seems to disintegrate at an alarming rate. One of my favorite GM cars was a 1970 Caprice w/police package. I bought it from a neighbor for $100 as a beater & drove it for 10 years & only gave it a flywheel and a few bushings & bearings here and there. It had never actually been a police car, but the package rocked, tight suspension, H.O. 350 engine, drove it like I stole it and it never winced. I finally sold it for $300 due to my wife and kids being embarrassed to have it parked at the house, let alone being seen in it. I looked at it as an anti-theft package.






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[m]

i drove the 5sp for a couple weeks

its funny but it really is a decent little kart

104hp i think funny little car

no problem cruising along 100mph

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