..seems most folks want a "crappy" deal and generally get "it" on Ebay...must be the bargain-hunter instinct or something..I wonder how many Z3'ers would take advantage of a really good deal on a Z3 HT?..you know, the kind of deal that makes you smile all day long(or at least a few hours)...Z3 Cheers! dk '97 2.8 bg R..+1