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12-14-2010 10:49 AM #1
12-15-2010 07:12 AM #2
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12-17-2010 12:11 PM #4
they do not mention:
if it is for the Motronic with Bosch end number -156
Motronic Bosch end number -352
How many chips do they offer?
Note that the chips for -156 only work on the Motronic -156 and the 352 chips only work on 352.
I sell the M70 chips in a set of 3: 2 for Motronic and one for the EML computer system. The EML is important as it is responsible for the positioning of the throttling valves and idle as well as for the max. speed limiter, which is removed in my chips.
I have them for the older pre-facelift engine with Bosch Number -156, or fior the facelift M70 engine with Bosch end number -352 and the corresponding EML chip.
If you are interested, send me an email.Shogun E32 Tech Tips: http://twrite.org/shogunnew/topmenu.html
12-17-2010 11:37 PM #5
Don't bother as there are only 2 chips included
As our master Shogun stated, the performance EML chip is just as, if not more important than the performance chips for the ECU. The stock EML throttle maps are comical, don't give you WOT till ~4200rpm, and a large reason why the car feels lethargic.
If you really want to wake up your m70 Shogun chips are the way to go. Not only do you get 3 chips instead of 2, but his chips have an excellent reputation in the e32 community and a huge plus is that you can use regular 87 octane gas. Most of the performance chips cannot make these claims and they also require higher octane gas which makes filling up the gas tank in the 750iL, that much more painful.
As an added plus, his chips are cheaper than all of the "performance" chips out there.a sweet e30 325i & e32 735i
12-18-2010 04:31 PM #6
12-18-2010 11:45 PM #7
I have heard good things about Wokke chips as well
as I have extensively researched the chip options for the m70 myself.
I was looking at purchasing a set of Wokke's, the big BUT is that they are more than 3x the price of Shogun's with only minimal difference.
The final point I would like to make is that Shogun relentlessly helps BMW enthusiasts on MANY BMW web boards with their problems and does not ask anything in return. He has saved many e32's from ending up in the scrap yard and/or expensive diagnosis repairs for the owners. If he produces an excellent product, the least we should do is support him.
signed a sweet e30 327i & e32 735i + 750iL
12-19-2010 12:54 AM #8
both are excellent products
wokke has his fans mainly in the USA with the E31 850 owners, while my chips are the 'standard' performance chips among the members of the German 7-forum.
As you know, people buy the same when they hear something is good and they are satisfied with a product they tell it, and if they are not satisfied they tell even more people. If it does not work, there are only one time buyers.
His chips are known to be good, my ones are known to be good.
Both since years.
As whiteghost already mentioned, 2 Motronic chips alone are not worth to buy for the M70, you need a set of 3, that means the EML chip is one of the most important of all 3 chips.
That it is possible to eliminate on the EML the V-max limiter is just a by-product, streets are too crowded all over the world and there are max. speed limits on almost any highways worldwide except maybe Germany.
But the EML chip is also in charge for the positioning of the throttle valves and that makes the difference to a normal standard EML chip.
And the difference between the wokke chips and my ones are the prices, for the set from him you have to pay US $489.00. See his offer presently on they bay.
Item number: 320616640066 Shogun E32 Tech Tips: http://twrite.org/shogunnew/topmenu.html
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12-30-2012 10:06 PM #13
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which engine do you have?
What is the complete number on the Motronic? I need especially the Bosch number.
For example the M70 in the E32 has 2 different Motronic.
Older version is the Motronic end number 156 and the newer version is the Motronic end number 352.
M30 have the M1.1 and the M1.3 Motronic, again different part numbers.
What country version do you have? All chips work on EURO models and US spec, except the one for the M60 engine with the chip end number 404 which only works on the EURO version.
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