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02-27-2011 10:47 AM #105Registered Member
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What kind of tires are you running...
To get that power to the ground and what sizes? I have trouble getting 534 to the ground so you must really have a hard time. I'm going to switch to either Pilot Sport N-Spec or Toyo R888s next.
2008 BMW X5 4.8i Space gray/black
2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage Supercharged Onyx Black/Black
2001 BMW M3 Imola red/black
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02-27-2011 12:22 PM #106Registered Member
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That's too bad, that was (like mine)
a nice car, of course it was all about this regarding the paint, the **FOOL** JV never figured it out... hahahaa
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02-27-2011 12:23 PM #107Registered Member
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See above!
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02-27-2011 02:04 PM #108Registered Member
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Well, you have to keep it drivable.
10 or 12 years ago, I helped a friend build a 1200hp version, with monster turbo. It was utterly undrivable, and honestly, the power was stupid. It had no power under 4k, a little power between 4 and 5k, and crazy power to redline, then shift back into the no power band. Dyno queen. That same car, reborn a year later, had a much fatter torque curve. Topped out at around 785hp, but made power from 3200 up. It was a much faster car, even with almost half the peek hp. I like to think of that car as my motoring maturity event. That was when I really learned about fast cars. It was also when I decided to buy my M3 instead of a Corvette. Fat torque curves became my obsession.
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02-27-2011 02:21 PM #110Registered Member
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Re: Well, you have to keep it drivable.
Oh I fully understand your statement!
I've stuck with 800hp max over the years for the very reasons you point out. I run a relative small turbo and I've built a 3.4 ltr stroker to help lower the power band.
I dont have the dyno handy but from about 3500 on I have very usable tq thanks to the small turbo and larger stroked engine! You are also spot on, I can easily take out 1200hp supra's for the first mile, after that they have enough time to close the gap albeit not enough to ever pass me!
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02-28-2011 01:39 AM #117Registered Member
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Remember it's how the power is developed too.
You are supercharging 500+, he is turbo. Might be more overall power, eventually, but the power bands are night and day different. Plus is sounds like he is tuned with variable boost on spool up to smooth out the power delivery. It robs a little bit of torque lower down, but you make up for it in control-ability. Otherwise once that beast get's on boost you loose traction through 3rd gear, easy.
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02-28-2011 01:55 AM #118Registered Member
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Re: Remember it's how the power is developed too.
Gear based boost is whats so helpful for putting down the power.
Second gear I'll get 16 psi, about 550hp, third gear I'll get about 26psi or about 700hp, and 4th on full 31psi and a tad over 830hp. Works very well. New development in aftermarket ECU's has been great and soon I will have full traction control where I can put as much power as the car will take until traction is an issue.
The car will trap right at 150mph as it sits now.
Adam
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02-28-2011 07:03 AM #119
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