OT: for the Military Guys...(long)

[MacLeanHess]

I know there's a couple of you on this board. I would use the lounge, but I know how infrequently people visit it.

I'm going to see an Air Force Recruiter on Monday. I'm thinking I'd like to become a Pararescue Jumper (PJ).

A little about me: I'm 25, in good health. Highschool SAT's (I know, back in the day) were 680 math and 780 verbal. I think I'll need LASIK surgery to get acceptable vision (mine isn't that bad, but it's a tad worse than what the USAF will take). I've heard the LASIK will set me back about a year; apparently it's a requirement to wait that long after the procedure before entering active duty. I don't have my BS yet, I'm about two years away from it, so I'll be going in as an airman, not an officer. Does anyone know what the chances are of "mustang"ing into OCS?

This is not a rash decision, I've been researching and thinking this over for about two years, and hope that I'm over any delusions. I know that it won't be easy.

That being said, does anyone have any advice on questions for the recruiter? I've got a list, but any advice would be indispensible.

Cheers,
Mac

[Gscott_80]

With SATs like that, your ASVAP should be in the 90's and should net you no problems in selection of an MOS. Eyesite in that particular job is probably going to be quite important, so I would be quite honest with your recruiter. Some of them can be a little shady as to what you can and cannot do once enlisted, but you will be able to know for sure after your ASVAP and physical, which will still allow you an out once you find if you are able to be a jumper. Good luck.

[MacLeanHess]

[boomer_135r]

your SAT scores show an ability to learn, you should have no problems academically in the Airforce. I have been in the AF for 18 years so, I can probably give you the real perspective. I would not have Lasik surgery prior to entering the Airforce. Currently, Lasik is only approved for personnal on flying status (I.E. PJ's) by the folks at Brooks AFB (Flight Surgeons). you could possibly make yourself in-eligible prior to getting the chance. As for becoming a PJ, I truly appreciate the fact that you want to do this, make sure that you are in superb physical condition prior to basic training. The physyical conditioning program following basic for PJ's is intense (almost like seal/special forces training. Also, as an enlisted member, please ask your recruiter what happens if you "wash out" of PJ school? you could wind up driving a bus, or working in the dining facility. The Airforce, based upon when you wash out, places you BASED ON NEEDS OF THE AIRFORCE. Lastly, your question about OTS and completing your degree is a good one. currently, 55-60% (I believe) of the commisioned OTS students are prior enlisted. I have personally worked with over 10 junior enlisted personnel to get them into OTS. You can do this as an enlisted member. If you have any more questions please feel free to e-mail you and I'll give you the best information I can give you.

[Mike in Palm Harbor]

Mac, if you want to jump out of helos, might I suggest a career in the Coast Guard. The air survivalman (ASM) rate gets to perform that function on a regular basis. We also have ample opportunity to advance, as a result of our recent expansion and increased role in the Department of Homeland Security. I can't comment on the comparative ability to jump into OCS, but I know quite a few who have...your SAT's and previous collegiate experience obviously qualify.

Whatever service you choose, make sure the recruiter is up front with enlistment incentives...I know, for example, that CG recruiters are able to offer recruiting bonuses selectively (i.e., they can sweeten the deal, but don't have to.) You may want to visit another recruiter or two, and play them off each other to get the best deal. Also, in the CG, we offer bonuses for "critical rates"...typically, those who sign up go to "A" school straight from boot camp and emerge as a newly qualified E-4 with a big bonus check in hand. Just make sure you do your homework and don't be too hasty to sign the dotted line...make the recruiter work for you. Good Luck.

Regards, Mike

[86_535i_VA]

While I can’t speak about how the Air force runs it's programs, I have had Laser eye surgery.

I personally would look more in to your eligibility after having LASIK. The preferred procedure, at least the one the Navy likes and does for free once your in, is PRK. It works more on the surface of the eye and is less invasive. LASIK cuts a relatively deep slice in the eye. The concern is eye stability while undergoing pressure changes, i.e. when flying and jumping out of perfectly good aircraft.

PRK is the procedure that the Navy uses for it’s pilots and Specwar operators. It does work great I went from a mind-blowing 20/900 to 20/20 with no discernable side affects.

Just don't want you to find out to late if LASIK DQ's from the program you want.

Just my $0.02
<br>Dave

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